Already Accepted; Want to know how this credit will transfer

<p>Hi!</p>

<p>I am going to be a student at Penn next fall (deferred enrollment this year). I am wanting to transfer some credits I have received while taking college courses during high school, but am confused about one class and how it will transfer. </p>

<p>I took a linear algebra course, and received an A minus for it. I am wondering:</p>

<p>a) is an A minus any different than an A when it comes to GPA at Penn
b) does Penn (CAS) have a unified grading scale (i.e., 100 - 90 A, 89 - 80 B,…)</p>

<p>Any answers would be helpful!!!</p>

<p>Thx!</p>

<p>if you received credit for the course in your high school transcript, then the course will not count.</p>

<p>at penn, an a / a+ is a 4.0, whereas an a- is a 3.7.</p>

<p>the college does not always have a unified grading scale because of curves and other such professor-dependent grading options.</p>

<p>for the best answer, talk to the math department to determine how the credit will transfer, if it is accepted.</p>

<p>The linear algebra course was not counted towards my high school credits. I had taken it additionally.</p>

<p>I don't think you can transfer that credit into Penn. You'll probably have to take their placement tests for math 240 for credit.</p>

<p>Transfer credit is always an adventure at Penn. </p>

<p>When you get here, be sure to bring a syllabus for the course along with any other supporting documents (e.g. mid-term/final exams). Then you'll get to fill out a transfer request form, attach the supporting documents, run it over to the math department office, wait a while, and finally, if it is approved, go pick up the form and return it to your advisor who will eventually push the right buttons to get the credit added to your transcript. (Incidentally, the grade will not transfer, only the credit.)</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Why can't credits that count on your high school transcript be transferred? I'm taking a college course in my high school and paid "tuition" for it to the university to get the college credits.</p>

<p>Wait, nevermind, you can probably transfer the credits. I misread that you were taking high school courses rather than college courses.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.math.upenn.edu/ugrad/transfer.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.math.upenn.edu/ugrad/transfer.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Why would the credit transfer but not the grade? Doesn't that affect your GPA or something? I just think it's odd that the credit would transfer, but not the grade... but I don't know how it works, SO......</p>

<p>I'm confused WilliamC!!! LOL Seriously... explain it to me :)</p>

<p>It would have no effect on the GPA whatsoever. However, it fulfills the requirements of that course and it counts as a credit toward graduation.</p>

<p>Another variation is a "waiver", which fulfils the requirement but does not count as a credit.</p>

<p>What if i have taken two college courses OUTSIDE of my high school and recieved A's in both, do those grades get transferred to Penn along with the credit?</p>

<p>Grades do not transfer - only credit. There's really nothing to explain.</p>

<p>Schools DO NOT count another colleges grades in their own INSTITUTIONAL gpa.</p>

<p>When applying to grad school, or another college, they will calculate an OVERALL gpa that considers ALL grades from ALL post-secondary schools for comparison purposes between applicants during admissions. Each institution, however, will have a DIFFERENT gpa, based ONLY on work completed at the particular school. </p>

<p>Penn WILL NOT use grades at another college to calculate its own institutional gpa--as you did not take the class from Penn. Penn may give you transfer credit for the courses you took (if it wasn't used for HS graduation, and deemed similar to a Penn class), but it will not factor the grades earned into the Penn gpa. If a college did that (count other institutions grades in its own calculations of a person's gpa), you could artificially boost/depress your institutional gpa (i.e. Penn's) by taking classes at an "easier/harder" school.</p>

<p>And, if the grades in the college courses were used to meet HS graduation requirements, you'll likely NOT get the college credit.</p>

<p>Hope you can use this info.</p>

<p>Ok Isleboy. Makes total sense now. Thx!!</p>

<p>Isleboy,</p>

<p>How about if you take classes at Haverford, Swat or Bryn Mawr? </p>

<p>PS-I know very few Penn students do this, mostly it's them taking classes here.</p>

<p>If you take classes at Haverford, Bryn Mawr, and Swarthmore...you'll get credit and the grade because the schools have an agreement to do so, although you'll still have to request a transcript be sent to the UPenn College Office.</p>

<p>During the Summer Term, classes at the colleges are considered as "credit away", you don't have the grade factored into the UPenn gpa, but you do get credit for the class.</p>

<p>The Quaker Consortium thing is a bit of a pain from the Penn side of things. From the UAB:</p>

<p>Penn students wishing to sign up for courses at Bryn Mawr, Haverford, or Swarthmore must be concurrently enrolled in Penn classes, must notify their home School office, must have a letter of permission from the Dean of the host institution, and must clear their course choice through the appropriate Penn department. A transcript must be forwarded to their home School office upon completion of the semester for the student to receive credit for the course. Students are allowed to take only courses not currently offered at Penn. Upon receipt of the transcript and the proper transfer credit forms, the home School will enter the course(s) and grade(s) onto the body of the Penn transcript.</p>

<p>this might be a bit late, but you could try talking to Mark Shank, who's in charge of transfer credit stuff... grades don't transfer as william said... and the math department is often really tough with evaluating transfer credit than other departments are...</p>