<p>Hi everyone
im a international student seeking an education in dartmouth in upcoming year.
I checked out dartmouth and it said need blind.
However, i read "A is for Admission", a book by Hernandez about admission at Dartmouth and it told me that dartmouth is not really "need blind" at all, at least for international students as in there are several rounds of admissions for students with fin-aid.
So will my chance be boosted if i dont apply for aid at dartmouth, i think my family can afford it.</p>
<p>Btw, does ED to the school boost my chance a lot?
Thanks a bunch CCers</p>
<p>Dartmouth changed its need blind policy after Hernandez wrote her book. Dartmouth is now need-blind for all internationals. IMO, ED helps domestic applicants a little, but not a lot. I have no thoughts on whether ED is a boost for international apps.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Actually coming to think of it right. each school has a limited amount of funding for internationals, and when they exceed their funding. They cannot take in more internationals so by paying for yourself, it should increase ur chance of acceptance right?</p>
<p>No, because Dartmouth is need-blind for internationals…</p>
<p>Dude, look at the inside cover of that book and look at the date it was published.</p>
<p>My advice:
When you apply to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, MIT, Williams, and Amherst (and other schools that at least say that they are need-blind for and meet 100% of financial need of internationals), apply for aid. Although the international applicant pool is a more competitive pool, applicants in it are evaluated following the need-blind policy.
When you apply to Stanford, Columbia, Brown, Penn, UChicago, Swarthmore, and other schools that say that they consider whether the international applicant has applied for aid when making admissions decisions, don’t apply for aid if you don’t have to. Your chances for admissions would be reduced to something close to zero at these schools if you apply for aid and are from Asia or Europe.</p>
<p>@SpringForever</p>
<p>Your list of schools with need blind admission for internationals is right except for Williams, which decided to quit being need blind starting this year</p>
<p>Basically, if you apply to…</p>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
MIT
Amherst</p>
<p>then, your applying for financial aid will NOT affect your admission chances</p>
<p>Do you guys think it would still be risky applying to Dartmouth ED in need of aid? I mean, has there ever been a case where a “need-blind” school has offered a substantially inadequate amount of aid to someone who needs it?</p>
<p>I think Dartmouth will meet your need :). So ED if you think you can
And TAHUNGANH, Dartmouth is need-blind so not applying for aid doesn’t increase your chance.</p>
<p>Itsinreach –</p>
<p>Dartmouth is one of the most generous schools in the country. I assure you that it will do everything in its power to meet your need.</p>
<p>Haha ok thanks for the reassurance guys 
I guess I dont have to worry about dartmouth then - do you figure the same goes for other top schools too? (im debating over where to apply ED - dartmouth’s up there but I’m not quite sure yet)</p>
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<p>Absolutely. For example, Cornell is need-blind, but does not offer full financial aid to internationals. NYU is need-blind, but doesn’t meet full financial need for anyone. Both offer ED.</p>
<p>Run the EFC calculator on Dartmouth’s website to see what you can $ expect.</p>
<p>Piggybacking on Blue’s post. Just because a school is need blind does not necessarily mean that it meets your demonstrated need.</p>
<p>Need blind is an admissions process which basically means financial need is not a factor in admissions. It does not matter if you are a full pay student or a full need student, it does not matter for admissions purposes.</p>
<p>Meeting demonstrated need is a financial aid process. Any school that does not meet 100% demonstrated need - gaps. It is the school that determines how much you need based on your income and assets.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the majority of colleges while they may be need blind (schools become need sensitive/need aware toward the tail end of the admissions process) most do not meet your demonstrated need.</p>
<p>There are very very few schools that are both need blind to international students and also meets 100% of their demonstrated need.</p>