Am I DOA???

<p>Hey, I’m sorry to clog up the boards with another chances thread, but I was wondering if I should even bother to apply ED at Brown. If I’m just going to be dead on arrival, I probably won’t waste the time. Anyway, here are a few of my stats:</p>

<p>White male from North Dakota.
31 ACT, 11 on the writing
3.878 UW 4.013 W (close to top 10% UW)
World History, 5; US Gov, 4; Comp. Gov, 4; English Language, 5;
2 years varsity track, 3 years tennis
2 years Quiz Bowl (qualified to nationals)
3 years debate (qualified to nationals)
Martial arts (black belt)
8 years piano, 6 years guitar
Intern on a senate campaign in 2004
And some other various small stuff that I’m too lazy to type…</p>

<p>Anyone care to evaluate? Should I apply?</p>

<p>North Dakota will help a lot. It is the only state where Brown did not mail an acceptance letter this year, so they'll want to bring one in next year, probably. But you should take the SAT; the ACT isn't too common on either coast. Did you qualify for NFL Nationals? If so, what event?</p>

<p>Is that a joke? a 3.89uw with a 31 FROM NORTH DAKOTA.</p>

<p>*** are you complaining about?</p>

<p>I qualified in domestic extemp, iwasatypo. Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm just divided on whether or not I should apply, because I see the stats of some of these brilliant, accomplished kids and I'm unsure if I have what it takes to compete in the ED round.</p>

<p>Well, Brown doesn't rely as heavily on stats as most other schools. That's why their SAT range is lower than most schools with its acceptance rate. Brown wants to see personality and character in your extracurricular activities and in your essays in addition to good academics. Your academic activities and the martial arts and the music and the politics are impressive, and your stats are not bad at all. What senate campaign did you volunteer for, by the way? I would say that if your essays and recommendations are excellent, you have a very good chance of acceptance. It's no sure thing, of course, but that's my guess.</p>

<p>if you want to go to brown and you think theres even the slightest chance that you would regret not having applied, definitely apply.</p>

<p>I worked for Byron Dorgan in 2004. Other than taking the SAT, is there anything else I need to do? I would interview, but I'm not sure if I have the time to fly out to RI...</p>

<p>DOMESTIC EXTEMP ROCKS! hehe a little nx/dx love</p>

<p>iwasatypo, you give bad advice.</p>

<p>bluefire, don't take the SAT. ACT works just as well.</p>

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Brown doesn't rely as heavily on stats as most other schools. That's why their SAT range is lower than most schools with its acceptance rate.

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Erroneous statement. Brown looks at "personality" no more than any other top school. As for the SAT range, well, don't forget our legacy acceptance rate is ridiculously high...</p>

<p>Most students have taken the SAT at Brown. It will help the admissions office to have the results of the SAT. That's debatable, though. As for my other statement, it is irrefragable. Your ignorance is tangible. For example, look at the self-reported importance of various factors for admissions to Brown on the collegeboard site. Listed under "Very important" are Character/Personal Qualities, Rigor of secondary school record, and Talent/Ability. Standardized test scores aren't even under "Important," they're under "Considered." Almost every other Ivy puts it higher. Why else would the SAT range be lower? And what do legacies have to do with anything? I'm not sure, but so you know, Brown has the lowest legacy acceptance rate in the Ivy League. You're making things up.</p>

<p>Oh, and they contact an alumnus/a near you to interview you after you've applied. You don't have to go anywhere.</p>