<p>this is throughly unfortunate. look how many topics are being discussed.</p>
<p>and yes....pressure for academic performance does increase(and is the highest) if you are from an Asian/French background...BUT...that's only a general observation...if you come from a higher class family(not if you win the lottery or something, but if you come from a background of professional parents, or even middle class parents that have extensive educational histories) expectations for higher grades and outstanding performance will, in turn, increase among parents. On the flip side, if you come from a low class family that's very dedicated to providing the best for their children, and are determined to see them live a better life(most prominently immigrant families), pressure will increase. Too many factors are present to form an overly general stereotype...but if you are asian...chances are...your parents will be pretty rough</p>
<p>lol french people ;-p</p>
<p>i did that too, but did it my senior year in high school...so i'll only be ahead one year when i transfer in the fall as a junior...but it's still one year ahead of the others :-)</p>
<p>french? work ethic? HAHAHA</p>
<p>efs424 :( that was a little rude. Western Europe has different priorities than Americans do. Let's not go bashing Asians AND Europeans.</p>
<p>i am asian and french and this thread bothers me, not necessarily because both have been discussed. it just bothers me that people are stereotyping groups in general. yes, we all stereotype people in our heads when we first meet them, but the fact that people on this thread have voiced these stereotypes shows how ignorant some people are.</p>
<p>i wasnt stereotyping anybody. The only reason i didnt like honors at my school was because of the condescending asian crowd. No there is nobody else besides asian people in that group. Yes I am describing my school and only my school. No I dont believe all asians are like this. I told the facts.</p>
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<p>"Stereotypes" are not always wrong. If the generalization is accurate, then making such statements are appropriate.</p>
<p>And it is generally known that MOST Asian parents pressure their kids harder</p>
<p>That's not a stereotype that's a known fact...live in an average Korean, Pakistani, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Bangladeshi, or Vietnamese household with teenagers and parents for a while, observe, and you'll conclude that we were right in our generalization</p>
<p>First, and maybe even second, generation Asians have been among the most successful ethnicities in the United States. Though it is not absolutely true, it is generally the case that such families now occupy the higher end of the income bracket.</p>
<p>Edit: This is typically due to conservative, familial values and discipline. My parents never even allowed a "Nintendo" in the house.</p>
<p>okay, maybe i am going off on a tangent now... but almost all stereotypes are wrong. the only stereotype that is valid is that the more attractive you are, the better the treatment you receive from society. i'm sorry, i am a psych major and it is a peeve of mine when people think stereotypes are true.</p>
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<p>And as a philosophy major, I can almost guarantee you that my generalization is not hasty.</p>
<p>I didn't say I thought your generalization was hasty nspeds (I am not sure to which generalization you are referring to). If it's regarding asians and their work ethics or whatever, then I agree also (I am a first generation Vietnamese). I'm just saying that stereotypes are not true and that's all I really wanted to point out in this thread.</p>
<p>well that's not really a stereotype...it's moreso a generalization that describes a majority of asian families</p>
<p>rdtg, I think its funny how you say that attractive people receive better treatment in life. Usually that's something "unattractive" people say about the people they're jealous about. On the flipside, the "beautiful people" will say that people hate them and only give them credit for their looks. Generalizations are called generalizations 'cause they're GENERALLY true. On the other hand, there is always an x-factor. Furthermore, stereotypes will always have a place in society. From people saying that ALL pitballs are vicious dogs to saying that white men can't jump. Assumptions based on loose facts or experience are sometimes necessary. Is it such a bad thing that if I'm expecting some brothas to come over my house, that I go out and buy some KOOL-AID just in case they want some? Also, we all stereotype frat guys (and maybe sorority girls) but no one is offended by that. I guess the difference is, you choose to be in a fraternity, you don't choose to be an Asian, beautiful, tall, athletic, whatever.... I always think its better to judge on an individual basis but I don't think people should get so OFFENDED over every stereotype.</p>
<p>kman, that is the only valid stereotype in society (take social psych), and it is a fact, not an opinon i whipped out. i don't know if you are inferring that i shouldn't take offense to racial stereotypes, and if you are, i don't think you should. i grew up in a town where we were the only asian family so i think my gripes about stereotypes have a basis for.</p>
<p>What about gender-based athletic stereotypes? I'm a decent runner but there are probably thousands maybe millions of women that could beat me in a race. But the fastest man in the world will always beat the fastest woman in a race. (Just watch the olympics.) I thought it was crazy when a lot of people made a big stink over Harvard President Summers suggesting that men and women are better in certain occupations because of their biological genetics. Stereotypes, just like people, are based on the evaluation of genetics and society in a person's upbringing.</p>
<p>I grew up in southwest Virginia...a conservative racist stronghold :-P....and being a Muslim Paki, I've been the victim of negative stereotypes/racist remarks on numerous occasions. Point is, if ppl are just saying things they assume to be true, then correct them...a sterotype would be...ALL Chinese ppl like rice...ALL Muslims are terrorists...ALL black ppl are criminals...etc. etc...but if you make a generalization based moreso on statistics and personal experience...like saying....Children from Asian families TEND TO BE under greater amounts of parental pressure to make good grades and perform above-average academically than their white, african american, or hispanic peers. Now it would be a gross misconception to say...all Asians are smart...
Another example...(this is no sterotype or misconception this is straight from sociological findings)...Many African Americans tend to concentrate on athletics rather than academics in highschool...we're not trying to speak for the race as a whole.....we're merely stating how a majority of the ppl in a certain group (in the U.S.) are</p>