<p>Obama= Harvard/Columbia</p>
<p>Mrs. Obama = Princeton/Harvard</p>
<p>Mrs. Obama wins because Princeton>Columbia.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
<p>The only thing new here is an ivy first lady.</p>
<p>Hillary went to Yale Law School.</p>
<p>Hillary aint ****, though.</p>
<p>Obama trounced her</p>
<p>Yes but the 7 sister undergrad cancels that!</p>
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Stanford beat the Ivies to the punch several decades ago (Mrs. Hoover). ;)</p>
<p>Hillary did go to Yale. :)</p>
<p>Technically Mrs. Obama does not run the country.</p>
<p>think about how SET their children are going to be when they apply...</p>
<p>yeah, underrepresented minority, legacy, AND daughter of extremely famous person.</p>
<p>IF they get a 1900 SAT and a B plus gpa they'll be in to ANY school the country lol</p>
<p>Right now, Obama's oldest daughter, Malia Ann, is born in 1998 or 1999, the sites i've found have different dates listed-- this makes her 10 years old. If obama is reelected for a second term, and i wouldn't be surprised by the size of his fan base and supporters, she would most likely still be living in the white house when she applies. With a double legacy at harvard, daughter of first black president, URM status, no doubt she's also smart, she'll get in anywhere.</p>
<p>I've heard Malia speak -- that girl is intelligent for her age (she's 10 -- her birthday was in 1998. She just turned 10 on July 4, and will be 11 this year).</p>
<p>Even if her father does not get re-elected, she will have no problem getting into wherever she wants. I must admit that regardless of what her grades are (even if they are abysmal) any school, Ivy Leagues included, will be delighted to have the daughter of the first black president at their school.</p>
<p>For my part I hope she goes to Columbia, but I'm biased. Better still is if she doesn't even choose an Ivy League :D</p>
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Hillary aint ****, though.</p>
<p>Obama trounced her
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I'd hardly say he trounced her. She got more votes.</p>
<p>I think the collegiate choices offered to the Obama girls will be interesting in that both of their parents had the incredible opportunity to attend Ivy League Schools for both undergraduate and graduate school. I would think that the top schools and Obama family would recognize that Barack and Michelle received life changing opportunities, became very wealthy and are now world wide celebrities, and that their children are no longer children from a disadvantaged home. I would think the Ivy League Schools would want to offer another disadvantaged family the same opportunity that was given to the Obama's. I would also think the Obama's would feel the same way. They have fought for opportunity for people without hope and the Obama children have been given amazing opportunities and hope. African Americans, in the past have felt that it was wrong to consider legacy status and that this favored the privileged elite. I would think the Obama's would want to set an example by recognizing they have been given amazing opportunity and their children should not take an Ivy League collegiate seat from families that have no opportunity or hope. It is my hope that the Obama family will show through, their actions, that they believe everyone ones deserves opportunity, not just their family.</p>
<p>I believe that they will utilize their legacy/elitism to get their children into a top school. If they truly believed in equal opportunity for all, they would have placed their children into the Washington, D.C. public school system. By doing so, they may have been able to make some dramatically needed changes within that system for the betterment of all children in the area. Talk is cheap. This is coming from a public school educator in the NY area.</p>
<p>They didnt attend public in Chicago, why now?
I would make the choice completely based on my child's needs not societies needs.
PS mine attend public, it is what my children benefit from locally. One of their old school's teachers was a teacher in our public school, my oldest was one of her students way back.</p>
<p>It might actually work against the children to have a split legacy. Legacy is important because of endowment; if they feel that the family wealth might switch to any ivy that was attended by the parents it could be a negative factor. </p>
<p>However, G.W. Bush got into Yale - any presidential kid can get into any of the ivies.</p>
<p>Nothing new here. Our last four Presidents (including Obama) have had Ivy pedigrees, as have 16 of the 44 persons ever to have held the office. </p>
<p>Harvard tops the list with 8: John Adams (Harvard College), John Quincy Adams (Harvard College), Rutherford B. Hayes (Harvard Law), Theodore Roosevelt (Harvard College), Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Harvard College), John F. Kennedy (Harvard College), George W. Bush (Harvard Business), and Barack Obama (Harvard Law). </p>
<p>Yale's next with 5: William Howard Taft (Yale College), Gerald Ford (Yale Law), George H.W. Bush (Yale College), Bill Clinton (Yale Law), and George W. Bush (Yale College). </p>
<p>Princeton has two, James Madison and Woodrow Wilson who also served as Princeton's president 1902-1910, unless you also want include John F. Kennedy who attended briefly but transferred to Harvard to finish undergrad. </p>
<p>Columbia has one legitimately, Barack Obama (Columbia College), unless you count Dwight D. Eisenhower who served as Columbia's president 1948-1953, and Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt who both attended Columbia Law, but neither graduated. </p>
<p>Penn also has one presidential dropout, William Henry Harrison who attended Penn Medical School but withdrew before completing his degree.</p>
<p>Cornell, Brown, and Dartmouth have been shut out so far.</p>
<p>The only non-Ivy school that approaches Harvard/Yale numbers is William & Mary which can claim 4: George Washington (surveyor's certificate), Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, and John Tyler. It's been a long drought for William & Mary, however. The U.S. Military Academy has two, Ulysses S. Grant and Dwight D. Eisenhower. Stanford also has two, sort of: Herbert Hoover (undergrad) and John F. Kennedy who attended Stanford Business School but withdrew. The University of Virginia can claim ties to three: Woodrow Wilson attended law school there but didn't graduate, and Jefferson and Madison both served a president ("rector") of the university, but only after they had completed their service as President of the United States. No other school has more than one, as best I can tell.</p>
<p>Bottom line: the Ivies have pretty much always run the country, at least after they wrested it away from William & Mary.</p>
<p>They didnt attend public in Chicago, why now? </p>
<p>Because now they are representing our nation which includes all our children - by doing so, they would show faith in the education system set up by our government and if they found areas which were lacking (and there are plenty), they would have the power to change them for the betterment of ALL the children, not just the elite few who can afford private school.</p>
<p>ArmoMom, The Obama's have become very wealthy and as Kennedy said, "To whom much is given, much is expected." I feel it would be more appropriate for the Obama family to pay tuition for the children of another underprivileged family to attend the same school that their daughters attend. The stated goal of the Obama's is to help everyone achieve their goals. The Obama's were given so much. They received the finest educations. Should they not return the favor to another family?</p>