An arrogant but honest post

<p>Leave it alone. It's 2 questions difference! It's really not that big of a deal. Plus, the 800 SAT I is more impressive anyway. I got a 760 MathII and got into Georgetown EA, so elite admissions certainly don't look down on a score like that.</p>

<p>It all depends on which college you want to go to. If you want to go to Caltech, where the average IIc has been an 800 (not year to year, but certain years it has been this), you might want to retake it. If you're aiming for other, non technical schools, you're fine.</p>

<p>i have 790 on iic and im happy</p>

<p>i got an 800 math SAT I and 660 SAT II math 2c with a 5 in AP calc BC.. i don't really understand that, but don't really care either haha</p>

<p>u might have had a weakness in precalc and maybe calc (cant say due to high curve)</p>

<p>but good math computational skills (800 SAT Math)</p>

<p>OMG...........please........that 800 SAT will get you in anywhere, given your other stats are good...... some of you people stress waaaaaay too much. how would you feel if you only scored like a 650?</p>

<p>800, 780.....................
thats terrible!!!
You have no future, maybe if u work really hard u can flip burgers but if ur really ambitious maybe they will let you operate the cash counter.</p>

<p>Anyone who says to retake a 780 (who's not being sarcastic) is an idiot. Seriously. Colleges do not look at the percentiles for the SAT II tests. A 780 on the curve generous IIc is just as good as a 780 on the Ic. Don't retake it. Plus, it will make you look worse when they see you retook a 780.</p>

<p>My friend had 780 IIC and retook it to get 800. Another friend had 790 SAT I and retook to get an 800 (he is a genious and knew after the test he had gotten that one wrong and it drove him insane). Me, I have 780 IIC and 800 I and I am not retaking, though I was VERY dissapointed with the 780 (I had studied for FIVE months to ace the test and then I blew it, but it was sophomore year and I did not know how the exam worked and I was working out of Barrons and thought it was an accurate depiction of the test because I am an idiot) but colleges do not really care, only the tech ones, like was already said.</p>

<p>It's interesting to note that, in the Caltech decisions thread, there were very few acceptees with less than 800 IIC scores.</p>

<p>their 75% is an 800, so goes to show ya... and it's NOT just 2 questions it's more like 8, your allowed roughly 4/5 wrong/blank... for an 800... so fo</p>

<p>THIS THREAD IS HILARIOUS! Wait, do you really think a college will care if you got a 780iic and a 800m SAT I? I think it is better to not be completely perfect. Colleges like to show boat how many 1600 800*3 kids they reject so not being perfect, but still at the top I think is more effective. Personally, it sounds cliche to have 800s. Look at it once
1600 SAT I 800/800/800
as opposed to
1580 SAT I 800/780/790</p>

<p>THe second one will not get you picked on for being "perfect" but it shows that you are an amazing genius, and perhaps an amazing applicant. The way they rate their applicants, a 780 would receive the same holistic score as an 800. Just my personal thoughts.</p>

<p>I think my 1590 SAT I 800/800/730 without studying means more than the perfect scores I might have gotten if I studied. That's right, I didn't study for my SATs (excepting a failed attempt to cram physics the night before. I didn't buy the book; I checked it out of the library.) Blasphemy!</p>

<p>I got the same as you! 800 M SAT I and 780 IIC. Don't worry about it and I don't think there's a need to restudy, re-stress yourself all over again. </p>

<p>Spend your time focusing on your grades, which I believe a more important, esp. if you're taking AP and H classes.</p>

<p>hey another jerseyan! welcome to the boards tofushop</p>

<p>threads like this make me wonder why I visit this site. First, I don't think colleges look at percentiles. I mean, after looking at so many scores, you know what's great,what's good, what's fair, what's poor, what's horrible. It's imprinted in your brain (trust me I know). So even if that percentile isn't as high, the colleges don't care. period. (hehe I've been watching too many kotex commercials)</p>

<p>Honestly, if you're gonna be a math major, the IIC is a joke. What does it cover? Algebra II? When I got into college, over the summer the math department asked me for my SAT 1 math, SAT 2 Math, AP math scores, and then the math course I was currently taking. When a college looks at your transcript and sees an A in Calc, they'll forgive a 780</p>

<p>Unless you're going to be a math (or closely math-related science) major, or you're going to someplace like Caltech or MIT, a 780 isn't going to be an issue.</p>

<p>However, if you are, a 780 is an issue, no matter how much effort arrogant posters like newt (who calls anyone who disagrees with him an "idiot") put into asserting the contrary. I decided to do a little research on the Caltech admissions thread. The result?</p>

<p>Applicants with math IIC <800: 1 accepted, 7 waitlisted/rejected
Applicants with math IIC =800: 19 accepted, 3 waitlisted/rejected</p>

<p>The acceptance rate on CC was 12.5% for sub-800 scorers and 86.4% for 800 scorers. I was expecting a pattern... but this is incredible.</p>

<p>Certainly this isn't a statistically perfect sample, but the trend is far too clear to deny: at least at Caltech, sub-800 scorers on the math IIC are at a significant disadvantage in admissions.</p>

<p>However, a case can be made that such a disparity in admissions is actually quite reasonable. The Math IIC has an extraordinarily generous curve, and I expect that adcoms are fully aware of it. If you don't get an 800 on the Math IIC, either 1) you had a very bad day (in which case you should just retake), or 2) you haven't fully grasped algebra and precalculus. For a school like Caltech, with a mathematically intensive core curriculum, a sub-800 score, which shows that a student missed at least 6 or 7 problems out of 50, is an indicator that the student may struggle in higher-level math classes.</p>

<p>Caltech might be the one (and possibly only) exception. Maybe some of the other tech schools, like MIT this is true as well, but if this isn't your situation, than I don't see why you would retake it with no effect on your application</p>

<p>Although for Caltech it is clearly desirable, I think that anyone with a focus in math who is applying to an elite university should retake a score that is <800.</p>