An interesting article about RIT

<p>From the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle
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RIT looking for right fit at the top</p>

<p>Simone has set bar high for successor, many say</p>

<p>Matthew Daneman
Staff writer</p>

<p>(September 19, 2006) — HENRIETTA — Perhaps in a decade or so, when the nation's 100 top high school students decide where to go to college, a third will head to Harvard University, another third to Massachusetts Institute of Technology — and the rest to Rochester Institute of Technology.</p>

<p>That's a goal that RIT President Albert J. Simone has talked about repeatedly in his 14-plus years at the helm.</p>

<p>It's a goal that, starting in July 2007, a new president will pick up and run with.</p>

<p>The area's largest four-year higher education institution expects to have its next chief executive hired by late March. Simone announced in May that he planned to retire at the end of the 2006-07 academic year.</p>

<p>His replacement could have a dramatic effect on the area's ninth-largest employer. New leadership "really is one of the most important things that happens in any organization," said Michael Morley, chairman of RIT's board of trustees and a member of the 21-person committee heading up the national search for a new president.</p>

<p>The area's universities "are going to be key" to economic growth in the Rochester region, said Rochester Business Alliance President Sandy Parker. "So the community should very much care" who the next RIT president is, she said.</p>

<p>Hiring that president could be thorny.</p>

<p>This year alone, presidents have quit or been fired at Harvard University, Case Western Reserve University, Western Michigan University, University of New Mexico, Clark College and University of Maine at Presque Isle.</p>

<p>Boston University in 2003 paid incoming President Daniel S. Goldin, a former head of NASA, $1.8 million to walk away from a job he had not yet even started. And in 2005, Cornell University President Jeffrey Lehman announced that after two years in the top job, he was leaving because of clashes with the board of trustees.</p>

<p>"Finding successful presidents of universities is a very difficult process," Simone said. "I think it's 20 percent of new presidents are out of their job in two years."</p>

<p>The next RIT president will be in charge of a $436 million operation with more than 15,000 students, 237 buildings on 1,300 acres and more than 2,800 full- and part-time employees. And that person will likely be handsomely rewarded; Simone's salary was $290,424 for the 2004-05 academic year, the most recent year for which figures were available.</p>

<p>The next RIT president also will encounter the sizable shadow of Simone, who has been a major presence on and off campus since he started at RIT in 1992. During his presidency, RIT's enrollment has added students, an eighth college and numerous buildings and has made racial and gender diversity of students and faculty a particular focus.</p>

<p>Off campus, Simone is active in High Technology of Rochester, the Rochester Business Alliance, the Center for Governmental Research and Hillside Children's Center, among numerous other organizations and boards. He also headed a committee on reforming the Rochester School District that came out last September with a raft of recommendations, including recruitment of 10,000 volunteer mentors over 10 years to work with city kids.</p>

<p>"With an institute as large and influential ... as RIT has been under Al's leadership, the next president ... will be expected to carry on the great tradition and leadership Al has provided," said St. John Fisher College President Donald Bain. "There'll no doubt be a different style. Every president, every leader has their own unique approach."</p>

<p>Being actively involved in the community will surely be one criteria for candidates, Parker said: "The fact Al has been so active really brings recognition to RIT."</p>

<p>Simone's replacement also will inherit a number of challenges, including the fact that half of RIT's enrollment comes from New York state but that the college-age population of New York will start dropping — by 2010, according to state Department of Education projections.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, RIT trustee and search committee chairman Donald Boyce said, one way to boost RIT's national and international reputation is by more research, but at the same time RIT probably doesn't want to become a research-heavy institution. The balance between research, teaching and career preparation has been an increasingly debated issue at RIT as the university has increased its number of doctoral programs.</p>

<p>"I am really impressed with the campus' interest in understanding (students') needs," Student Government President Elizabeth Sorkin said in an e-mail. "We have the field house, the renovations, the student development center, new buildings here and there and so on. What we need, we get it.</p>

<p>"I would hope the next president is understanding and receptive to that."</p>

<p>For many students, who the president is doesn't matter much as long as the university runs smoothly, said Rachel Laster, 21 and a bioinformatics major from Buffalo.</p>

<p>Finding people interested in the RIT job may not be difficult, Simone said, though finding candidates who actually can do the job could very well be.</p>

<p>"If I was 60 and I had another 10 years, it'd be a ball coming to RIT at this time," Simone said. "(But) there's a limit to everything. It's time for change."</p>

<p><a href="mailto:MDANEMAN@DemocratandChronicle.com">MDANEMAN@DemocratandChronicle.com</a>

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<p>And another:</p>

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September 20, 2006</p>

<p>RIT welcomes $8.5M addition</p>

<p>Several scattered academic programs going under one roof</p>

<p>Matthew Daneman
Staff writer</p>

<p>HENRIETTA — Between Rochester Institute of Technology's Gleason College of Engineering and the Student Alumni Union is a long brick promenade and tree-shaded quad that serves as the heart of the academic side of campus.</p>

<p>On Tuesday, with some ceremonial shovelfuls of dirt, RIT took steps toward creating a second heart.</p>

<p>The new College of Applied Science and Technology Engineering Technology Building will put under one roof numerous academic programs that had been scattered across campus, from packaging science and safety technology to civil, computer and electrical engineering technology.</p>

<p>Tuesday was a groundbreaking ceremony for the 33,600-square-foot, $8.5 million building.</p>

<p>"This building is truly an outstanding opportunity" for the college, said interim Dean Carol A. Richardson.</p>

<p>The building will also help square off a section of campus currently filled with parking spaces and construction equipment, transforming it into a second RIT quad.</p>

<p>The Applied Science building is to be built in parking lot J, directly in front of the Golisano College of Computing and Information Sciences.</p>

<p>The new Northwest Quad will sit between the Applied Science building, the Center for Bioscience Education and Technology, and the Booth Fine Arts Building.</p>

<p>Work on it will begin in the spring, said James Yarrington, director of campus planning and design and construction services.</p>

<p>Preliminary designs for the quad show walkways and landscaping.</p>

<p>The design will also include a piece of outdoor art, Yarrington said.</p>

<p>The Applied Science Building is scheduled to be built by December 2007. Plans for it got a shot in the arm with $2 million from the William G. McGowan Charitable Fund.</p>

<p>That money will be used to help build a commons for students and special events and the McGowan Center for Telecommunications, which will house a variety of laboratories. McGowan was founder and chairman of MCI Communications Corp.</p>

<p>While the work on the Applied Science building will take up about 50 parking spaces, nothing will be lost; a new lot with 213 spaces is being built.</p>

<p><a href="mailto:MDANEMAN@DemocratandChronicle.com">MDANEMAN@DemocratandChronicle.com</a>

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<p>I'm not going to deny that having several programs under one roof is nice; HOWEVER, RIT should have used the money to build more dorms on campus. Lack of long term, quality, on-campus housing has been a major complaint among students. They could have built more appartment type of dorms easily with the money and perhaps enhanced retention.</p>

<p>I agree! I kept thinking that same thing!</p>

<p>Weenie-
I am from Rochester. It seems like RIT has been under construction for 15 years!! But that's a good thing, I suppose.</p>

<p>However, President Simone is very unrealistic about RIT being on par with Harvard and MIT. I think he would be much more effective if he set realistic and attainable goals. But, as long as your goals are impossible to reach, nobody can fault you for failing to achieve them!! Good strategy.</p>

<p>Collegehelp notes,"However, President Simone is very unrealistic about RIT being on par with Harvard and MIT"</p>

<p>Response: Simone didn't exactly say that RIT will be on par with MIT and Harvard. In fact, he implied that it will be the school of choice for the lower third tier. That could mean that RIT would be close in quality to these institutions, which seems to be the way you interpreted it, or it could be a distant third in quality. His statements can be construed either way.</p>

<p>taxguy, thanks for the clarification. It think I remember reading about his comparison with MIT several years ago and I thought it was strange then. It must have embarrassed the faculty to have their President talking crazy. My impression then was that he wanted RIT to be a top tier tech school.</p>

<p>I don't think student diversity has improved at RIT. If you look at trends, the percent female has been going down, percent minority about the same. Deceptive advertising is a pet peeve of mine. I hate the business/marketing side of higher ed.</p>

<p>RIT still hasn't recovered from the decline of Kodak and other local industry. Its current enrollment is about 20% lower than its historical high. They keep constructing buildings but the enrollment doesn't change. It doesn't look good for the future either because the number of high school grads in the northeast in going to decline.</p>

<p>I will say however that some of the nicest kids from local high schools go to RIT. They are smart but more well-rounded, not obsessed. I really think highly of the students I know at RIT.</p>

<p>nice chatting with you, taxguy</p>

<p>By the way, your analysis of the retention problem at RIT was very insightful, as was weenies reply</p>

<p>collegehelp, for what it's worth, when we visited RIT, we were very impressed. You are right. The kids seemed both smart and well-grounded for the most part. </p>

<p>As for decreasing female enrollment, if you check their enrollment data, there is a higher percentage of females than ever. Admittedly it isn't at 50% yet,but it is improving.</p>

<p>It was also nice chatting with you too.</p>

<p>taxguy-
According to the IPEDS data, the current percent female at RIT is 30%. In 1995 and 1985 the percent was about 33%. If you exclude the deaf school and the european schools, the percent female on campus at RIT is probably substantially lower.</p>

<p>In contrast, the percent female at MIT is 44% and the percent female at CMU is 40%.</p>

<p>Why are you excluding the deaf students in your calculation?</p>

<p>I didn't exclude deaf students as far as I know. The calculation is whatever was on the IPEDS website. I would however exclude deaf students if I could because they are a nontraditional group that does not (could not) interact very much with other students. I imagine RIT treats them separately as well.</p>

<p>My son is a freshman at RIT living on a mainstreamed floor in the dorms. He says the population on that floor is about 60 percent hearing, 40 percent deaf or hard of hearing. I think there are separate majors and courses in the National Technical Institute for the Deaf, but NTID students can also major in subjects in any of the other colleges and take courses throughout the Institute. The president of the student government this year - that's the student government for all of RIT - is deaf. I get the impression that RIT doesn't treat deaf students seperately at all. My son says that it IS hard for hearing and deaf students to interact, but they muddle along, and they certainly seem to be together a great deal (at least physically, if not socially) in classes and the residences.</p>

<p>This seems like a great point to join the conversation and say a couple things from a 2nd year point of view.</p>

<p>In regards to the freshman population, while I have seen no statistics, I have only heard from professors and fellow students that the female ratio has increased in the most recent classes to enter the university.</p>

<p>In regards to the deaf exclusion comment made by collegehelp, I would have to say that he is off-base. The effort that RIT makes to include the deaf population into the rest of the students is impressive (if perhaps somewhat tedious at times for other students). I have personally been in many classes with deaf students (perhaps 20% of my classes so far). In those classes, their education is provided through at least one, often two, dedicated interpreters who translate the gist of the lesson for them. In addition, many classes also have a notetaking system in place so that the deaf students can focus entirely on the interpreter.</p>

<p>As for the overall student body size, I would have to say that the school is clearly around their current capacity goals, as the dorms are effectively packed already.</p>

<p>tabletcorry-</p>

<p>Based on real IPEDS data, I think the percent female has decreased at RIT over the past five years. Perhaps you could try to get the answer to this from an authoritative source. I would be interested in what you find out.</p>

<p>The deaf students may be in the same classes sometimes but I wouldn't think there would be much socializing outside of class because of communication barriers. It's great that deaf students are so well supported at RIT and their presence is no doubt mutually beneficial for hearing students.</p>

<p>I think the dorms are packed because of housing problems. At least that was a comment I read earlier in the thread.</p>

<p>What is your major at RIT? Do you have any thoughts on retention at RIT?</p>

<p>Thanks for your interesting post.</p>

<p>Well, I would appreciate a link to the IPEDS data, as I looked there myself and can find no history function in order to view past data. From what I can see, the ratio of females to males has gone up by nearly 2% in the last year alone.</p>

<p>Yes the dorms are packed, and yes, that is because of the choices that RIT has made.</p>

<p>I am a Computer Science major, and I have my ideas for why retention is low, but I have no real proof for any of them, so I don't feel that I should mention them here.</p>

<p>As to your continued comments on the deaf population, I can only say that you need to be here in order to understand what it is like, and you are making far too many assumptions.</p>

<p>tabletcorry-
Here is a link to a post with instructions how to use the IPEDS data. It is a pretty cool website if you are curious about colleges. To get a historical trend, you select different years.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=238707&highlight=IPEDS%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=238707&highlight=IPEDS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>What I found on IPEDS:
first-time, full-time, undergrad enrollment percent female</p>

<p>2001 26.6%
2002 25.6%
2003 27.1%
2004 25.0%</p>

<p>The only point I was trying to make about the deaf students was that it made sense to exclude them (and the foreign schools) from the male-female ratio because they are not as integrated into the on-campus social experience. I may not be on campus but I know people who go there.</p>

<p>RIT must be a great place for comp sci. How do you like that huge new building?</p>

<p>tabletcorry, I'm curious to know your thoughts about the idea, mentioned on the "retention" thread, that there's not much for students to do at RIT. From my son, I get the sense that ARE things to do on campus and close by, but school work is so demanding that it's hard to make time for swimming or Thursday night movies or many club activities. Or else, you can choose to make time for those things, but then you don't get enough sleep. Is that your experience?</p>

<p>In 1980, the percent females for the freshman class was 34% at RIT. So, in 25 years the percent of incoming females has decreased almost 10%. That can't help retention.</p>

<p>According to the RIT Web site, current enrollment (undergrad and graduate combined) is 10,583 male and 4,974 female. That puts female enrollment for 2006-2007 at almost 32 percent. They don't break the numbers out separately for undergraduates.</p>

<p>jdsmom, My thoughts on their being plenty to do are that you simply have to look for a group of friends, and if you are smart, join a Special Interest House like I did. I find that while I cannot always spend some time each day there, it is quite common so long as you plan out your week around the assignments that are due.</p>

<p>I personally get exactly 8 hours of sleep each night, but perhaps I am the exception.</p>