<p>Nothing would please me more than to recieve some feedback for my common app essay.</p>
<p>If you are interested in reading what I feel is a very heartfelt elaboration on absolutely nothing then please let me know.</p>
<p>I'd like to see this essay about nothing.</p>
<p>I truly wish nothing more than to have you read my essay but in the interest of prudence I cannot allow anyone applying this year for college to read it.</p>
<p>This is not to say that you will steal it but to say instead to say that you could steal it.</p>
<p>are you for serious? we're here to help each other, not to steal from each other.</p>
<p>No no. You're right.</p>
<p>I will modify it to this:
If I don't feel comfortable sending you my essay then I just cannot do it.</p>
<p>that's fine. i didn't mean to criticize, i just don't want anyone getting those ideas anyway! it's your essay--do with it what you will.</p>
<p>I really want to see this. Send me a PM. :)</p>
<p>I'll look at it.</p>
<p>I am a parent. Would like to see it..PM.</p>
<p>I'm too conceited to steal anyone else's writing and call it my own. Send or not as you wish, but I am applying this year.</p>
<p>Bump. .</p>
<p>Wow. Interesting to say the least. It should work out well, but it's very unconventional. Where are you applying?</p>
<p>So you're willing to trust complete stranger to read it? And of course we should all take each other's word for it; as if we have 10 years of trust behind us. Of course sending it College admissions is sending it to stranger too. However, how can you trust people enough to be sure that they won't steal (maybe borrowed or "interpret") your essay (if it's really good) and send it to the college of their choice? They can't steal great essays from college guide because it's published and visible. They might be able to afford to have someone write it for them. But heck, getting a free essay landing on your lap is pretty sweet. All they need is just scoured this forum for posts like this and get as many essays as they could. Take the one they like and send it in earlier than you. Could what I say happen? Probably not. But hey, this is America. Who would've thought that 9/11 could be possible before 9/11. Just a word from the cautious</p>
<p>P.S.
If they can't send it to Colleges, they could do it too Scholarships. Who is going to verify that they actually wrote it? And what the worst that could happen. You and them will both be disqualified - college or scholarship- so you'll be handicap for a paper you spent time and sweat on...Great Deal!</p>
<p>No offense to the OP, but I certainly wouldn't use it. It doesnt reflect who I am in the slightest.</p>
<p>Thank you Jpod for your analysis, its hard to know that what makes sense to myself will make sense to others as well.</p>
<p>But as for people stealing it. You are correct I do entail a certain amount of risk doing virtually anything, this is especially true when I distribute my essay to strangers. That said: Yes, it would be irrational of me to distribute my essay if this was a lose lose game; this game though is not lose lose. I have some amount of objective critique to gain (so lose win). So by saying that I should not distribute my essay you are assuming 1 of 2 things (or both).
1. I have some broken perception of reality and I didn't realize/understand/comprehend the dangers in what I did.
2. (more likely imo) The amount of value I place in the feedback of strangers (objective, disinterested, uninvested) is wrong.</p>
<p>I say more likely for the second because I previously implied that I understood the dangers. So here is our real disagreement: I value feedback more than you think I should. Big deal, lets be friends, you do your thing, I do mine.</p>
<p>Ahh and to Jpod:
I am applying to...... good question give me suggestions.
I think I might apply to U Chicago but who knows.
I am looking for an incredibly intellectual smallish college that is not Reed.</p>
<p>A wee bit of the former, but mostly the latter.</p>
<p>I believe putting your essay online is a lose-lose proposition. The benefits of an objective evaluation are almost inconsequential to the risks it entails. If you want an honest evaluation and critique of your essay there are a variety of sources available in school and outside of school; with the exception of online forum like this. Ask teachers, one that you know and one that you don't know. Ask guidance counselors, and despite the horror stories we all heard about our guidance counselors, most of the time they're very useful. Keep in mind that most of the people who frequent forum like this are in the same boat as you. They're within the same age frame, similar confined-experience of a teenager (although it might vary a bit). I question how could their perspective be the right type for you? The ultimate readers of the essays will be scholarship committee members and admission officers. Their view point and experience of their job -judging candidates- give them a unique look into what they see. Their experience and perspective might be more closely resemble your guidance counselor and your teachers who are older. </p>
<p>A case in point: last year I was advising four students on their applications to the Gates Millennium Scholarship. Being a past winner, and had met several dozen previous winners at a conference, it gives me a unique perspective on how to approach the 8 essays requirement. Two of my advisees' writings can bring some to tear. Their words flow so harmoniously, their themes are unified, and both have the grades (Both are currently at top 20s schools). But since they write so well, they chose to do their essays independent of my advice. The third advisee's prose aren't flowery or smooth, but I help made it practical and to point. It fits with the theme and motto of contest, and the third one won the scholarship versus the other two great writers who ramble on in verbosity. The fourth one was too laughable for me to even describe, so much self-righteousness. The moral of the tale: seek out those that would provide relevance advice. Some one who is not in the same collegial-bound boat as you are. </p>
<p>P.S.
You can find individuals (parents and students) on this forum who might be of help to you. But they don't know you. They don't have your credential on hand, your history to compare your writing with; they never spend a day with you. So how can they extract what is you in your essay. You might write a great poetic essay, but it would only be an exercise in futility if it doesn't serve your purpose of getting the college admissions to advocate for your entrance. You would remind me that admissions officers are also stranger; however, they still have the benefit of having your files on hand: recommendations, resume, gpa, sat's, the whole nine yards. Plus they've been doing it for a while.</p>
<p>My essay is a reflection of myself right?</p>
<p>The motivation for posting it up was to see what image of me was conveyed to strangers.... right again I guess? </p>
<p>The point was NOT to see what adcoms will think.</p>
<p>The point WAS to see how well I conveyed the sum of my existence in around 500 words. Some one who knows me cannot be objective in this analysis; they are biased from the start.</p>
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<p>Really, this is the last thing I will say. Please don't come along and troll my thread by telling me that you ****ing KNOW better than I what I should do with my own essay. </p>
<p>Its my essay right? Not your essay?</p>
<p>I'm a smart guy, you could be a smart guy but unfortunately you do not know me better than I know myself.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I called your ******** logic, telling me that you think differently about something ergo if I do not think the same way I must be unintelligent, and how do you respond? You state that you:
"believe [that] putting your essay online is a lose-lose proposition."
Good god man, thank you for that calculated analysis. I just so happen to believe that you are made of muffin mix; therefore, by that same logic you must be near muffin status. I mean I obviously know more about you than you know about yourself right?</p>
<p>Finally, (maybe) please don't come along and name drop like a prestige whore. No one is very impressed; name dropping inextricably implies that most people know that name so guess what! Everyone can name drop. No wait let me rescind that moral absolute, I am not impressed. I can't really say no one is impressed because obviously you are pretty impressed but that is only fitting let me pull something out of your post that I found very telling of who you are:</p>
<p>"They don't have your credential on hand, your history to compare your writing with; they never spend a day with you. So how can they extract what is you in your essay."</p>
<p>That was kind of neat, credentials = who you are . . . ohh gee . . . maybe it was a typo but NO!</p>
<p>The next sentence is semantics followed by this statement which is in reference to the information you need to have on hand to truly 'know' someone:</p>
<p>"recommendations, resume, gpa, sat's, the whole nine yards"</p>
<p>And my bosom friend this is why I feel no anger towards your brazen effrontery: Your sum existence is constituted in several arbitrarily chosen criterion; undoubtedly your essay (we were talking about essays right?) further reflects your shallow existence and single minded obsession. </p>
<p>I can feel no anger at someone whose soul is but a fleeting raindrop. </p>
<p>That all said (whew):</p>
<p>PLEASE LEAVE MY THREAD, I POSTED THIS THREAD TO GET FEEDBACK (which I definitely still want) NOT TO BE INCESSANTLY HARANGUED OR PREACHED TO BY A CHILDISH TROLL.</p>
<p>Whoa! I'm sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention. I apologize again If I ended giving you an unnecessary lecture. </p>
<p>However, in both my posts, I did not call you names or insult your intelligent. I did not initiated a personal attack you so what's it with the "End of rational reasoning, begin of personal attacks"? So why be bitter with what I've said? And please dont call me a "childish troll." I treated you with courtesy, and could only hope you do the same for everybody who gives you a feedback. What I gave you was a candid and personal perspective from own experience. I did not berate your writing, or offer any hurtful criticisms, so why must you act in such a childish manner and get easily offended? Maybe, that's why you're a pariah? All I did was advising you too seek alternative sources to help with you essay. But if you feel that the anonymonity afforded to you by the internet -being your only refuge from whatever disillusionment you have with the real world- serves your interest than I can only hold my peace. </p>
<p>The example that I gave in the previous post was to illustrate that great writers who don't bring their writings to serve whatever end of their intention will fail on that purpose. I don't think pumping myself with "prestige" and being a "whore" about it. I believe that was on a cautionary advice. </p>
<p>I don't know what kind of feedback you're hunting for here. If it's for acknowledge of your writing prowess, then I'm sure you are a very coloful writer, and perhaps many could attest to it. But don't be hunting for witch when there isn't one around. I wish you the best of luck in your search for whatever that you're looking for.</p>
<p>P.S. I will unsubscribe myself from this thread as it is your wish. Whatever final words you want to give I won't be able to read it, but you'll probably give it anyway to whoever else might be reading this.</p>
<p>I like cheese.</p>
<p>OP, Stats?</p>
<p>OP, I suggest you let this thread die. It seems to have been overtaken by randomness and I don't mean that in a good way. Hopefully you got a few people who can give you constructive thought/feedback on your essay which was your original goal.</p>