Another racist incident connected to UCSD

<p>Yes, here it is.</p>

<p>This is interesting: The original San Diego newspaper article about the student who hung the noose mentions that she is a minority:</p>

<p>[Student:</a> Noose in UCSD library a ?stupid mistake? - SignOnSanDiego.com](<a href=“http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/02/noose-in-library-a-stupid-mistake-ucsd-student/]Student:”>http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/02/noose-in-library-a-stupid-mistake-ucsd-student/)</p>

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<p>But the Associated Press story that went out nationwide omits that fact.</p>

<p>[UCSD</a> student who hung noose in library apologizes - San Jose Mercury News](<a href=“http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14494411]UCSD”>http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14494411)</p>

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<p>Is the media deliberately manipulating what they report so as to keep tensions inflamed?</p>

<p>That’e the way all this works. The BSU wants it that way too. They want everyone there to think things are this way. It’s the “look at me I’m the victim” mentality that is so pervasive. Over-reacting is what works and what groups like this thrive on. I don’t think any racial group at all should have a seperate student union. This is creating an US vs. THEM attitude. </p>

<p>I believe that UCSD needs to preach unity, plain and simple. Any “demands” by the BSU should be ignored. The media should be called out for using half thruths to create a story that doesn’t exist. Racism is a thing of the past.</p>

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I will never die!</p>

<p>I’m rich!</p>

<p>Every woman in the world wants to sleep with me!</p>

<p>Gee, this is fun. Let’s think of some more.</p>

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<p>That’s a good idea. I am closing this thread temporarily. </p>

<p>When someone has an actual news development, PM me with a credible link to a published article. I’ll publish that as the next post.</p>

<p>It was a minority student that left the rope in the library–not a racial incident.</p>

<p>[Student</a> apologizes for noose in UC San Diego library - latimes.com](<a href=“http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ucsd2-2010mar02,0,5953265.story]Student”>Student apologizes for noose in UC San Diego library)</p>

<p>New development:</p>

<p>[KKK-style</a> hood on UC San Diego campus - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com](<a href=“http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35677130/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/]KKK-style”>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35677130/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/)</p>

<p>There is some speculation that the hood, because it was placed over the statue of Theodor Giesel on his 106th birthday, was actually social commentary. If so, it was exceedingly stupid.</p>

<p>I find the apology interesting, if confusing. If she left it by the desk, why was it found on a light fixture (quite literally, hanging)? Maybe she hung it up so she could look at the cool noose while she studied?</p>

<p>Also, for all of you that assume it was not a racist incident because it was perpetrated by a minority (and I’m not saying it was, clearly we don’t have all the facts) – minorities can hate races different from their own, just as whites can.</p>

<p>Silly thread. Silly responders.</p>

<p>today was supposed to be UCSD’s annual celebration for Giesel’s birthday, but his wife called and asked that it not be held because of the recent events.</p>

<p>“Silly thread. Silly responders.”</p>

<p>care to expand?</p>

<p>in response to the link on post #67…■■■■■, ANOTHER racist incident?! does ucsd really have to out-do itself with these types of things each week? -_-</p>

<p>It seems to me that placement of a KKK-style hood on a statue on campus could have more than one meaning–it could be an attack on UCSD for being racist, as opposed to another racist act.</p>

<p>I would hold off any speculation until the investigation is complete.
At this point we don’t know who put it there.</p>

<p>I believe the name(s) and face(s) of involved people will be published in the end.</p>

<p>The hood on the statue strikes me as a college prank. Some kid thought “Ok, how outrageous can we go” “Won’t this be funny?”. They aren’t being serious and the administration should just lighten up and the controversy would die down.</p>

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Agreed.</p>

<p>Good grief. Can we please stop all this speculation until there is at least some concrete resolution or real official information about something at least? I thought we were all parents around here. Don’t we all know stupid kids who are going to think it is funny to perpetuate this stuff just because they are getting all sorts of attention? For all we know it could have been a local middle schooler. </p>

<p>Why can’t people just wait until actual facts come out instead of fomenting hysteria. Oh, I forgot, that’s what message boards are for.</p>

<p>Not too clear on the concept of why it isn’t necessarily a racial incident because the student who admitted doing it is also a member of a racial minority. If a Hispanic, Asian, or Native American student hung the noose does that somehow make it better (or different) than if it was an anglo student?</p>

<p>It feels wrong to say but yeah, I think some might feel it’s different. From what I’ve read, the lynchings were done by white people and the people lynched were African Americans. Somehow, the possibility of one of the other minorities you mention making the noose does make it different but certainly not better. Anyone leaving a noose around with the intent to hurt anothers feelings or conjur up those ghosts from the past are wrong and should be punished.</p>

<p>My problem with this case is there is a severe rush to judgement about intent etc… Immediatly, people want to scream racism without having facts. It feels insulting because there is an implication that everyone is involved and that there must be intent. Demands made of administration, taking over of an office. Please, this is a witch hunt that feels very silly to people from the outside. It feels very “boogeyman” in nature to me and it’s impossible to not shine a light on. </p>

<p>Lets move on people. There are people who are investigating and I’m sure the administration is intimidated enough by people taking over their office to do something about this once the investigation is completed.</p>

<p>As a student at a very liberal University, I think the ‘situation’ at UCSD is being blown way out of proportion.</p>

<p>I listened to three minority students go at it with some of the fictional b.s. going around. I learned that the ‘white frat’ that started this party “is known to rape black girls and the University does nothing about it.” I also learned that “UCSD doesn’t want black students, therefore, they keep minority enrollment as low as possible.” Oh and, “UCSD spends money on white activities but not on black activities.” </p>

<p>It seems like these are the truths (speculative, I know) out so far:</p>

<p>1) A bunch of individuals (possibly minority led) had a party that had the intent of mocking black history month. Keep in mind, they also host a party to mock Veterans on Veterans day… I wonder why we aren’t discussing that. I personally believe that party is at least as bad as mocking black people in black history month… Anyways…</p>

<p>2) A noose was hung in the library for unknown reasons. I personally believe this is the work of some stupid kid looking for attention without thinking about the significance of the noose and the state of the University at the moment.</p>

<p>3) These acts (and more to come possibly) are representative of less than ten students, not the University as a whole (unlike what some may want to believe for their own political agenda).</p>

<p>While I certainly don’t believe this series of incidents make “everyone racist” at UCSD or make UCSD a racist institution, it’s important to note that whoever perpetrates these acts feels comfortable enough at their institution that they can express hate speech (with whatever intent, as most didn’t make it clear) with either a) little fear of getting caught or b) little fear of retribution. For instance, the Compton Cookout - I find it problematic that a group of adult students feel so comfortable in and proud of their privilege that they have little issue mocking those of a different race and socioeconomic class.</p>

<p>Yes, it probably is stupid kids thinking racism is funny and people are getting so up in arms so let’s just try and exacerbate the situation. Except - these aren’t kids. These are over 18 ADULTS who are presumably fairly intelligent. And should be aware of how these actions will be interpreted.</p>

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<p>Are you privy to some official information we don’t have? How do you know these people were of a different race or socioeconomic class? I haven’t seen any official announcement about who these people were.</p>

<p>Someone else on here posted that the main organizer of the party was African American. I have absolutely no idea if that was true either, and don’t really know if it makes a difference.</p>

<p>I just wish people would stop arguing about this from either side when nobody really has all the facts, or even very many of the facts.</p>