any advice about lesser known UC/CSU film schools? UCSC vs. CSUN vs. CSUMB vs. HSU

<p>Hi Shrinkrap!</p>

<p>Thanks for taking an interest in this topic and sending my autobiography to your brother ;)</p>

<p>Only after I noticed that my thread had gotten a ton of views did it dawn on me that I posted my life story for the whole world to see… Too late to go back now, so I am just going to embrace it in all its glory! Would love to hear about the issues you guys have talked about! </p>

<p>Ps. why did your son switch to engineering (if I may ask so)? And, what were his perceptions of the other schools?</p>

<p>^ I’ll try to make sure you get credit if he turns into a screenplay! It was primarily the idea of how education is different here in the US vs elsewhere, and the pros and cons of having to show early on what you are capable of, and deciding early what you want to do. </p>

<p>We have also talked about what school can and cannot do for a film career, and brother is very much into politics; US and otherwise.</p>

<p>But your post was also quite well written. </p>

<p>My son had planned to do engineering when he started applying(quite late by CC standards), but in the last month or so shared an interest in “television acting”.it’s in quotes, because of what my brother says about television and acting. I’m sure my son was interested in part, because of his uncle, but he had no real demonstrated interest prior so neither his dad or I were big fans. But I learned about LMU here, and we checked it out. The admitted students orientation turned out to be primarily about screenwriting, although they also have a television studio run by students. He decided to do engineering, and feel out the television interest.</p>

<p>Shrinkrap,</p>

<p>Credit would be nice… especially on my bank account :wink:
Hope he can see past the typos as I typed it rather in a hurry after I had lost my initial post having to log in again…</p>

<p>The education debate is an interesting one! As someone on both sides of the fence, I cannot say that I favor one over the other. There needs to be a balance! </p>

<p>From my mother’s perspective, U.S. (public) education does not stimulate intelligence. She went to Van Nuys High with tens of thousands of students. When she wanted to take French AND Spanish, she was told that it was not possible to learn multiple languages at once. In my previous life I was a competitive figure skater, and practiced other EC’s as well. A school where everyone is highly intelligent encourages separatism in society. School should be balanced. I would have preferred the school to acknowledge strengths and weaknesses and allow students to take more Art/humanities over 5 languages if they clearly are not great in learning languages. For most language classes, I’d have to learn 50+ words per day and would get tested the following day. It is too stressful and takes away from other experiences that should be part of teenage years. I have also found that having a VWO degree makes it difficult to get a menial job in Holland because they see that you are too smart to last long doing it and will leave at the sight of a better job. wth! smart people need income too!</p>

<p>I think it is good that your son switched to engineering. I think the first rule to get industry work is that you need to be where the industry is, so him studying in LA should not prevent him from working in Film/TV. Notice how that same rule does not apply to engineering? :)</p>

<p>You are right. And he has not let school distract him from why he is in LA! ( ha ha…I can’t remember the smiley thing…)</p>

<p>With regard to higher education, I think that GE/major/minor and being able to double major here is a terrific system. If someone doesn’t know what they want to do at 18, they can still make progress in their degree. Of course if you want to be a doctor of lawyer, it is much nicer going from HS straight into professional school and not dealing with U.S. admission stress. You could be a LL.M at 22 or a M.D. at 24.
I just don’t think that GPA’s/SAT’s alone show a student’s intellectual abilities and feel that too much emphasis is placed on grades, which encourages students to choose easy classes over tougher classes just to get that A. And then there is that cost factor. I think it is the height of absurdity how much education costs here. Save for community colleges and some state schools, the cost at most schools has spiraled out of control!</p>

<p>Steering the conversation back on topic, both my elementary school and high-school had at total of 300 and 600 students, respectively. Design for Virtual Theater and Games had a class of EIGHT, The Film school Visual Effects Class counted SIX students. How large are the classes at the various schools we have been discussing?</p>

<p>Also, LMU, Chapman, CSULB, and to a lesser extent CSUN (film production) are all very competitive schools. I have seen stated here before that there is no such thing as a safety school when it comes to film, but surely there are some decent lesser known film programs that will not be as cut-throat with admission?</p>

<p>Op,
Check out the website below. I found it last year when researching programs.
You list the major that ur interest in - media/film/tv - and it returns the majors and programs available at all of the CSU schools. If the link doesn’t work, u can find it by searching california state university majors</p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”&gt;Welcome to ASSIST]Majors[/url</a>]</p>

<p>A quick look at the list suggests that you also consider SJSU and SDSU</p>

<p>As for CSULB, there is a range of places in LB from very nice to very ghetto. Would def be more affordable than MDR or manhattan Bch. Coming from the valley, u might not really know about the nicer places in long beach but there are some</p>

<p>^Yes, there are some quite affordable areas in Long Beach. Several of daughter’s friends live there now, on the cheap, in nice apts. (One of these is the 4.6 GPA top high school student I mentioned above. She graduated from CSULB’s program recently and landed an internship at Pixar; she could have gained entrance to almost any private program, no doubt, but with 5 high achieving daughters, the family sensibly decided to go with publics). </p>

<p>Below are a few random bits (excerpts + links) that lend some flavor to CSULB’s programs. I’ve included some for Film & Electronic Arts <em>and</em> Illustration/Animation, since there is so little here on CC about either dept. </p>

<p>[CSULB</a> film students win praise, cash - News - Daily 49er - California State University Long Beach](<a href=“http://www.daily49er.com/news/csulb-film-students-win-praise-cash-1.2396653]CSULB”>http://www.daily49er.com/news/csulb-film-students-win-praise-cash-1.2396653)
Published: Sunday, November 7, 2010/Updated: Thursday, July 12, 2012 15:07</p>

<p>"Two Cal State Long Beach film students won multiple awards, totaling $2,500, at the 2010 CSU Media Arts Festival, which took place at Cal State Fullerton on Saturday. CSULB had six finalists at the competition representing categories in animation, documentary, experimental, narrative and television. Jason Oppliger’s film entitled “You Cannot Learn How to Be Honest” won in the experimental category and also the title of Best in Show. Neil Corbin’s “Virus” won best documentary and audience choice. The festival presents winners with Rosebud awards along with cash prizes of $500 to the winners in each category and $1,000 to the winner of Best in Show.</p>

<p>CSU faculty reviewed 131 student entries from 15 Cal State Universities and narrowed them down to 29 finalists. A panel of entertainment industry professionals then selected the winners for each category. This year’s event also featured a keynote presentation by screenwriter Steve Oedekerk, whose works include “Bruce Almighty,” “Evan Almighty” and “Patch Adams,” among others. The students also had the opportunity to talk to industry professionals during a mixer before the screenings began. The Media Arts Festival, presented by CSU Summer Arts, was established in 1991 as a way to give film students of the 23 CSU campuses a forum to present their work for critical review."</p>

<p>CSULB Student Wins Grand Prize for Film Contest - YouTube
► 2:44► 2:44
<a href=“CSULB Student Wins Grand Prize for Film Contest - YouTube”>www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlal1fFxMpcDec</a> 10, 2011 - 3 min - Uploaded by videod49er
CSULB student, Leah McKissock won the grand prize of $50000 for a student film contest. Reporter: Kyle Ramos.</p>

<p>[?This</a> Is My College,? A CSULB Film by Stu Rosen](<a href=“Beachcomber Newspaper”>Beachcomber Newspaper)
“Despite CSULB Film and Electronic Arts Professor Stu Rosen’s Emmy-award winning and innovative career in TV and motion pictures, his return to his former campus has provoked little media attention.”</p>

<p>CSULB 24 hour animation contest
[CSULB</a> 24 hour animation contest on Vimeo](<a href=“http://vimeo.com/8732466]CSULB”>CSULB 24 hour animation contest on Vimeo)</p>

<p>CSULB BFA Illustration & Animation Show
[CSULB</a> BFA Illustration & Animation Show - YouTube](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>

<p>CSUN bits–again, including film stuff + some blurbs on animation at Cal State Northridge. </p>

<p>[Northridge</a> Film Student Invited to Show Senior Project at Cannes Film Festival; Is First Recipient of CSUN?s Sawhney Creative Excellence Award for $10,000 – Newsroom – California State University, Northridge<a href=“5-17-2012”>/url</a> </p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://blogs.csun.edu/news/2012/08/foreign-press-2/]Hollywood”&gt;http://blogs.csun.edu/news/2012/08/foreign-press-2/]Hollywood</a> Foreign Press Association Awards CSUN?s Film Dept. $50,000 for Student Fellowships – Newsroom – California State University, Northridge](<a href=“http://blogs.csun.edu/news/2012/05/film-student-cannes/]Northridge”>http://blogs.csun.edu/news/2012/05/film-student-cannes/)
<<Steven Spielberg, Dustin Hoffman, Jennifer Lawrence, Jack Black, and other Hollywood celebrities were in attendance when John Travolta accepted on behalf of California State University, Northridge’s film department a $50,000 grant from the Hollywood Foreign Press Association.</p>

<p>The presentation was made during the association’s star-studded annual luncheon earlier this month in Beverly Hills. The $50,000 grant to CSUN’s Department of Cinema and Television Arts will be used for fellowships for students working on their senior film projects. Cinema and television art professor Nate Thomas, head of CSUN’s film option, said the university welcomes the association’s support. “The association’s grants and fellowships to the film program at CSUN have literally made the difference between mere artistic aspiration and actual fulfillment of dreams,” he said.>></p>

<p>[CSUN</a> Student Travels to Thailand to Complete Senior Film Project - Northridge-Chatsworth, CA Patch](<a href=“http://northridge.patch.com/articles/csun-student-travels-to-thailand-to-complete-her-senior-film-project]CSUN”>http://northridge.patch.com/articles/csun-student-travels-to-thailand-to-complete-her-senior-film-project)
8/1/2012 “California State University, Northridge senior Tara Lucia Prades knew the story she wanted to tell for her culminating film project—that of a young rose seller in the red-light district of Bangkok. She also knew that to tell the story right, she would have to film it in her native Thailand.Now Prades is back from a two-month shoot in Bangkok. She is the first Northridge film student to shoot most of her culminating project overseas. But she doesn’t expect to be the last.”</p>

<p>[Cal</a> State Northridge Professor Wins ?The Gate of Freedom? Award at Festival – Newsroom – California State University, Northridge](<a href=“http://blogs.csun.edu/news/2011/05/gate-of-freedom/]Cal”>http://blogs.csun.edu/news/2011/05/gate-of-freedom/)
May. 24th, 2011 "Writer, producer, director and Cal State Northridge film professor Alexis Krasilovsky received a lifetime achievement award, “The Special Award of the Festival ‘The Gate of Freedom,’ ” at the Ninth Gdansk Documentary Film Festival in Poland. The award was given to her “for emphatic solidarity to all people of all genders.” The festival featured screenings of documentaries about dignity and work, and was inspired by the workers of the Solidarity movement, which got its start in Gdansk.</p>

<p>“It’s a great honor to receive the Gate of Freedom Special Award from an international film festival located in Gdansk, the city where the Solidarity Movement was born,” said Krasilovsky. “ I hope that I can live up to the responsibility bestowed on me by the Gdansk DocFilm Festival, whose focus is ‘work and dignity,’ both as a professor and as part of the California Faculty Association, fighting for the dignity of our profession and for the quality of education of our students.”</p>

<p>“Women Behind the Camera” is based on Krasilovsky’s book of the same name, published in 1997. “Women Behind the Camera” is the first in-depth look at the lives of camerawomen and their struggles to succeed in a male-dominated field. Professor Krasilovsky and her co-editor, Dr. Harriet Margolis of New Zealand, are co-editing a second volume that pertains to camerawomen around the world.>></p>

<p>[Press</a> Release: CSUN Speaker Series to Explore the ?Commerce of Creativity? C2: The Commerce of Creativity<a href=“Nov.%209,%202011”>/url</a>
<<California State University, Northridge announces a new distinguished speaker series exploring the role of creativity in contributing to business success. The Commerce of Creativity series kicks off on Thursday, Nov. 17, with award-winning architect Kara Hill, who designed the university’s state-of-the-art Valley Performing Arts Center. The series will continue in 2012 with Tom White, an industrial designer and strategic marketing expert, and Oscar-nominated filmmaker Don Hahn.</p>

<p>The series is designed to recognize the contributions of “a new breed of professional whose distinctive path has defined a new vision of commercial success and creative leadership,” said Robert Bucker, dean of CSUN’s Mike Curb College of Arts, Media, and Communication, which is sponsoring the series.</p>

<p>“Cal State Northridge is committed to educating students who go on to successful careers in creative industries, including art, filmmaking, theater and music,” Bucker said. “We are invested in the value of developing creative problem-solving skills—skills emphasized in the Commerce of Creativity series. In this new series, we will bring, not only to students and faculty across our campus, but also to the community a celebration of the art of creative problem solving”.>></p>

<p>Sony takes note of CSUN’s animation program
[url=&lt;a href=“http://yourhub.denverpost.com/def-section/sony-takes-note-csuns-animation-program/STYpV0oT9TRXT9ZfR27PIJ-ugc]Sony”&gt;http://yourhub.denverpost.com/def-section/sony-takes-note-csuns-animation-program/STYpV0oT9TRXT9ZfR27PIJ-ugc]Sony</a> takes note of CSUN’s animation program - Your Hub](<a href=“http://www.c2speakers.com/press/c2/]Press”>http://www.c2speakers.com/press/c2/)</p>

<p>[California</a> State University, Northridge](<a href=“http://www.csun.edu/pubrels/press_releases/fall07/animation.html]California”>California State University, Northridge)
Students in CSUN’s Animation Program Bring Their Imaginations to Life </p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/09/local/me-25784]Wide”&gt;Wide World of Animation : CSUN festival offers boarder view of a thriving international industry.]Wide</a> World of Animation : CSUN festival offers boarder view of a thriving international industry. - Los Angeles Times<a href=“An%20older%20article,%20obviously,%20but%20describes%20some%20of%20the%20background%20of%20CSUN’s%20program.”>/url</a></p>

<p>NRK asked: < How large are the classes at the various schools we have been discussing?></p>

<p>It’s not a lesser known public, but at Chapman, I believe that son said his classes have between 15-20 (Honors, Digital Arts) and one foundation course has perhaps 35 students.</p>

<p>NRK, BTW you stated a few times that your long posts timed you out and you lost them. Your post isn’t lost. After you type a long post and hit “submit reply”, a note tells you that you’ve been timed out and log back in. If you type in your log in and password (don’t hit the back button), then your long post will still post correctly and not be lost.</p>

<p>Wow, look at the energy generated for LA film school options, I kinda feel sorry for NYU. At nrk700, D is Junior this year, deeply involved with DP and AC for fellow students. The greater responsibility has eaten into her time to freelance for money this semester, but the last two years she has had opportunities for cash jobs on music videos, ads, etc. through contacts at school.
Production costs are students, but don’t really apply until Junior and Senior year. Effort is made to keep costs down by restricting length and other constraints. You can actually apply for an increased COA of about $5000 depending on course, but it will probably just make you eligible for more loans. Actual costs vary enormously depending on the resources of your sugar daddy.
I will try to send you info on transfer to LMU, I really know nothing but contacting them may be worthwhile, my experience has been that they are helpful.
At everyone else, opinions on “lesser programs” vs. the big names? If the goal is employment in the film industry, what are the advantages, if any, of USC, NYU, LMU, Chapman, Cal. Arts. Sorry if I left out anybody, I thought about leaving out Chapman just to get Ocelite’s opinion.
nrk700, another thought, UCLA doesn’t admit until Junior year, how would that work for transfer, I know it is extremely competitive but they do take transfers.</p>

<p>LOL, JTmoney. This thread does have legs! It’s wandered from lesser known publics to top dream schools (USC, NYU) to mid-tier or whatever we want to call it (Chapman, LMU) and back to lesser known publics. </p>

<p>In the interest of full disclosure, I’m going to offer one final data point to terminate my explanation of why my son “chose Chapman-Dodge over USC SCA.” I hope it’s taken <em>in context</em> and doesn’t blow anything up (since we simmered everything down quite nicely). I believe I’ve been fair-minded. USC is incredible and there is no gainsaying it–DS was thrilled to be accepted there and remains so! If he decides to go for his MFA, he’s already decided that’s where he’ll be. </p>

<p>Here is the last bit of our equation: USC is a CSS Profile school. It can be very generous, but you can’t really know until you are admitted how the FA will pan out. DS knew it was a financial reach, but worth throwing his hat into the ring to see what happened. We happen to be hugely equity heavy (extremely debt-averse and thus we’ve spent 20 years paying off 2 homes in South OC), there is no other outstanding debt and our DD is already out of college. Soooo, our EFC for USC ended up being GINORMOUS. At first, we thought, indignantly, “NO WAY we’re gonna pay that!” But once DS was admitted, we started to fret about lost networking opportunities, etc. (the question you pose above). We really fretted. And fretted. In the end, late in April, we told son that we’d refi one of the houses and make it happen, if he felt that USC was where he needed to be. We set up the refi and were ready to pull the trigger. But when DS spent a second day at SCA, for USC Explore, he realized that Dodge (his fave all along) was still the far better fit. For HIM, for HIS MAJOR (Digital Arts). End of story. </p>

<p>All these programs have a lot to offer and each has strengths and weaknesses. CSULB has strengths and USC, NYU and UCLA…well, even dream schools are allowed to have some <em>relative</em> weaknesses, too, I think. I have shared both strengths and weaknesses of DS’s program (Chapman Dodge). I believe that these things can be explored productively, fairly, and without any disrespect. </p>

<p>Now BACK TO THE LESSER KNOWN PUBLICS and a great thread. :)</p>

<p>Watching Stanford kick USC in football tonight reminded me why jealousy is at least part of the root of USC hate, and rationally football is about as far from film school as you can get in a college. Hate is not the right word, but I am in football mode to tonight. USC is one of the best, madbean, and D was excited to work on a film with ex-USC students for the network opportunity last spring. But really, what separates USC from Northridge, is it superior talent, or superior access to money to finance your projects. The film industry reminds me of music, so much talent and so much to chance.</p>

<p>Wow! We are really starting to bring some attention here to the ‘other’ film school options in this monster thread aren’t we!</p>

<p>I should probably not have reacted as fiercely as I did to Madbean’s post but I asked off-topic what the reasons were besides cost for choosing Chapman over USC and in doing so did not expect such a strong and immediate retaliation from the USC defense team on this thread about lesser knowns. If there is one program on earth that does not need defending, it’s SCA. it speaks for itself just fine :wink: </p>

<p>BTW What I failed to mention, when I said that I personally would have “blindly” gone in debt for USC, was its real reason for that. I think the single biggest asset USC SCA has is its networking opportunities and if there is one thing I have blind faith in, it is my ability to network and wiggle my way through seemingly locked doors. Most jobs I have gotten were despite the fact that there were more ‘qualified’ people out there. For my first 2nd AD job (I was 19 and had 0 experience on/off set except in front of the camera), I was invited for an interview because they needed a runner but I left the office with the choice to work as a 2nd AD or PM Assistant. The runner ended up being a 35 year old who had been a runner for years, and the PM Assistant was a 40 year old who had worked for the production company as a PM Assistant for over a decade. I sooo would have milked SCA for what it’s really worth! LOL
j/k but sortof not really :)</p>

<p>Not everyone at SCA takes advantage of its network, though. I believe it was at studentfilms.com as well as elsewhere where several graduates spoke of their regret not having networked more, admitting that networking really wasn’t their strong suit. </p>

<p>As Jtmoney points out, “All these programs have a lot to offer and each has strengths and weaknesses. CSULB has strengths and USC, NYU and UCLA…well, even dream schools are allowed to have some <em>relative</em> weaknesses, too, I think.” We all know how amazing SCA is, but what some might not realize is that small nuances in programs and schools can become VERY apparent once you actually live and breathe at a school or program. Such as the effect of actually being at USC had on g-bird’s son’s mood (and my own while in the Arch. school). Once you’re at a school you tend to forget all the great facts that led you there and you start seeing things from a different light and could find yourself thinking: “Do I really feel at home here? Is this the best/only place for me, do I mesh well with the student body or do other programs/schools suit my needs better or just as well? etc.” </p>

<p>I also think a lot of students don’t realize how truly different USC/UCLA/NYU are. I always see them listed as the first three preferred, yet these three programs and schools could not be more different from one another. People tend to overlook that because they simply are labeled “the best” by general consensus. As I remember correctly, and please correct me if I’m wrong, Dodge’s film school was the brainchild of former USC professors, who wanted to see a school run the way they thought was best. They had SOME issues with the way SCA was run and wanted to change that. Finding resistance at USC led them to take their thoughts elsewhere and so Chapman’s Dodge was born. (I don’t remember who told me this or if I have the right school in mind, so again please correct me if I am wrong). </p>

<p>It is good that you brought some not-so-lesser known publics as well as privates into the mix. If it good for students to know, that they might have a shot at some better know public or private schools, regardless of grades, if they have interesting qualities to show for it. USC and UCLA place heavy emphasis on grades and academics, more so than most Art Schools and BFA programs for Films. While this might not be the most viable option for myself, others should be aware of the “lesser known” powerhouses too, which I would call CalArts, Chapman, LMU, and CSULB. I expect CSUN to join that list in the near future with all the recent investments not to forget the accolades and jobs students are receiving. The CSULB girl that G-bird speaks of is a great example that shows when someone has the talent to succeed at these top schools, they have no less chance of succeeding elsewhere. Not having debt is more important for film/art students than others as they will generally need to buy some extra time to intern or hone their skills before the money starts coming in.</p>

<p>Totally off-topic, but I swoon and sigh over Stanford’s Red Barn… O how wonderful it must be to be brilliant and rich! ;)</p>

<p>Now back to reality and on-topic, many thanks to Gladiatorbird for posting such an extensive review of what CSU film students are up to!</p>

<p>I am using the link provided by Yohoyoho to categorize the various “lesser known” film schools, and will post my List ASAP. Since we are also talking about better known schools, as well as the Top 2 (USC/UCLA), I will add information about those as well. For each I will elaborate why I think they are or aren’t for me, and which schools I think are particularly suited for specific types of students. For the benefit of traditional freshman applicants as well as less-non-traditional-than-myself transfer students I will group them accordingly. </p>

<p>Since I am somewhat of an odd case, I will start off by detailing which schools I am exactly planning on applying to or not and why. Please make suggestions for me to add/alter schools to this list based on the following personal criteria, which are not something I can overlook.

  1. Location: either in Los Angeles or commutable from where the bulk of the jobs are (SF Valley or the Westside) OR in a gorgeous nature area good for scuba diving and horsebackriding ( I really could do with a break from LA to regroup my heart and soul and come back to hit the ground running).
  2. BA non-production heavy programs (as I want to graduate ASAP)
  3. Whats really in a name?! (negotiable)
    a) BA (insert any film/media/tv related) WITHOUT STUDIES in the name. This is somewhat open to debate, I just feel that this is a scholarly track that one should do at Berkley/Stanford/USC not at a CSU.
    b) I am looking at schools from an international perspective. One reason I am contemplating UCSC more heavily than I should is because UC is known outside the immediate area. People outside of LA/Film have generally not heard of CSUN or CSULB, Chapman, LMU. This is reason for me to add CalArts to my list (benefits could outweigh cost). </p>

<p>My selection so far:</p>

<p>(EXTREMELY) selective schools:
No To:
1)USC SCA: not applying. why? it will take me MUCH longer to finish = higher cost. less than 1% chance for transfers, and I don’t think I fit in/would be happy at USC at this point in my life; this is truly a program for freshman IMO as I think transfers are at a disadvantage.
2) Chapman: Love Dodge! BUT it is not in a location I want to move away from the industry for. Also very young students on average and = transferring into a group that have been together since freshman year.
Maybe:

  1. CalArts: time, money, and transfer disadvantage, and difficult to get into but am reconsidering this one after comments on here (and contemplating point 3b above).
  2. LMU: I need to go check out the program (as it satisfies requirement nr 1 on my list). I worry about being at a transfer and age disadvantage here. Religion still irks me, as do sororities etc (FAR more annoying than Jesuits indeed). Time and money concerns.
    yes:
    UCLA: I know my chances are miniscule, but I satisfy the application requirements, and this is by far the best program for transfer students as it doesn’t start till junior year. it is sequential and will take 2 years, BUT it is in a terrific location for work, and a 30 min drive (in dense traffic) from my current home, not to mention the fact that it is a school known around the world. </p>

<p>well known CSU’s:
CSULA: Maybe, but I think NO!! Location is unacceptable for me and it’s a BA Television, Film and Media Studies (they really need to scratch that word from the title IMO)
CSULB: Yes to a B.A. IN FILM AND ELECTRONIC ARTS most likely:
Option in Theory and Practice of Cinema Track Seven: Film and Television Management
CSUN: Yes to a B.A. in Film and Television Arts (Multimedia Option)</p>

<p>other UC’s:
triple yes to Santa Cruz!<br>
no to San Diego!</p>

<p>Lesser Known UC/CSU’s and Privates:
extensive list coming soon!</p>

<p>Elaboration of my personal qualifiers:

  1. Location described above is non-negotiable</p>

<p>Ideally also (thus negotiable), but should have 2+ of the following:
2) BA not BFA
3a) no studies in title
3b) (inter)national name recognition
4) small school/class sizes for upper-division major courses
5) open-minded/liberal students
6) older student population
7) keep grad school options open?</p>

<p>Tip for other students: make a qualifier list with your own requirements and rank schools according to which satisfy the most on your list</p>