<p>Just normal people. regular 4.0 gpa, mid 1400 sat's, good recs, essays, and e.c's. Don't have URM or legacy status or anything awesome. i know there's always a chance, but anyone here actually get in with similar stats?</p>
<p>TIA</p>
<p>Ergh. If you're going to ask these questions, go over to the 'Chances?' forum where they belong. I don't mean to sound like a bitch or anything, but these are just really annoying and redundant. No one knows, no one should claim to know, and as far as I'm concerned, if you need a ballpark range that badly, use the acceptance rate: 13%, give or take a few percentage points because of SCEA.</p>
<p>The odds are against you even with 1550+ SAT's and they get worse the lower your scores drop. Against that, of course people get in with mid-1400 SAT's. The percentage from the group is very small is partly because there are so many of them.</p>
<p>For HYPSM applicants there is one good rule: don't have your heart set on it and do be engaged with other colleges that you would like to go to.</p>
<p>The corollary for HYPSM acceptees is to be humble, you are not one of the Elect; it could just as easily not been you. The admissions directors have made it clear that from their applicant pool they could have two or three full classes of completely different admittees and that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, either quantitatively or qualitatively.</p>
<p>Well, I'm really screwed when it comes to SAT Is. If odds are against you when you have 1550s then I might as well dig my own grave. But on the brighter side, Stanford isn't my number one school.</p>
<p>By the way, what does the "M" stand for in HYPSM? MIT? I'm terribly bad with acronyms.</p>
<p>eiffelguy87: </p>
<p>TheDad has me biting my tongue so hard it's bleeding. But it's just not worth arguing over anymore. Until April, anyway ;) But the point is no, you're not screwed if you have less than a 1550. That's garbage. And yes, the "M" in HYPSM is MIT. </p>
<p>What's your first choice?</p>
<p>My first choice is Georgetown or UCLA. They're tied. I've already been accepted to Georgetown so I'm seeking what UCLA says in March. Stanford comes a close second.</p>
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<p>Sort of. High standardized test scores don't impress Stanford undergraduate admissions. Grades, research, awards, and essays are far more important.</p>
<p>great, thanks for the responses. best advice is to apply expecting the worst i guess, aka as a "reach school." ill be applying as a junior transfer next year, but im sure its similar to freshmen admissions from what i read.</p>
<p>If you have great grades, but aren't really that brilliant iq-wise as shown by medium hi SATs, so you can't get into a true IVY, would the better choice to apply to be Duke or Amherst, or another, maybe Northwestern or Middlebury.</p>
<p>SATs are not really reflective of IQ when you take into consideration the amount that some students have prepared for them</p>
<p>LauraK, what has you biting your tongue?</p>
<p>The odds are against virtually <em>everybody</em> applying to Stanford. Per Sabnet's post in the other thread, only 17-21 percent of those with scores in the 700-800 range get accepted. Percentages drop from there. Harvard rejects more 1600's than it accepts...why would anyone be shocked when the other very top schools demonstrate a similar pattern? The fact that people with 1400's get in should not be interpreted to mean it's routine. </p>
<p>Sabnet, I think that beyond a point even grades don't help. Essays, research, and whatever the Admissions Fairy is looking for on the day they read your app.</p>
<p>Yes. I got accepted with a mid-1400s SAT1, and okay SAT2s. I have a 4.7 weighted GPA and a 3.95 unweighted but very strong leadership positions in extra curriculars. I think the most important part is conveying passion and personality through your essays and having great recs. Other than that, I have no idea why I got accepted. (I'm not a legacy or URM or athlete). Good luck.</p>
<p>Collegehopeful: I'm an EA acceptee and I had 1420 SAT 1, and alright SAT 2 scores, I'm doing IB so I don't have a GPA but my grades were pretty good. Had some good EC's with leadership roles, but didn't invent anything, win any competitions etc. Not an athlete or URM or legacy. Think I got in because of recs and essays. So yeh... you definitely have a shot! Good luck!</p>
<p>I like TheDad's comment. The odds are always against you. The odds are against you when you have a 1600, they're against you when you have a 4.0, and they're REALLY against you when you have great recs.</p>
<p>thanks for all the responses. looks like its a good idea just to go in expecting the worst- you can only be pleasantly surprised in that case;)</p>
<p>AIM78, do you not understand that you can have better or worse odds but that even a 4.0uw/1600 is less than 50 percent?</p>
<p>I know two people with 1420-1440 that got in. It's not surprising, since 14xx is the average for Stanford....most students have 14xx SAT. You're definitely in the range to get accepted.</p>
<p>i was accepted ea with a 1440. i had great grades and ec's, but like xraven said, i think it was my essays which conveyed my passion (and perhaps my rec's too) because (i always say this, so if you've read my posts before you've heard this already) in a whole pile of 1600 4.0's, you really need something to stand out, and i'm a firm believer that once you pass a threshold gpa/sat level, if you have something exciting or interesting in your essays/rec's that sparks an admissions officer, then that's all you need - but of course, remember that the "spark" or clicking with the adm. officer is sooo subjective and random, so even though you may deserve to get in, the adcom could be having a bad day or anything.</p>
<p>but no matter what, you'll get in somewhere and have a great time no matter what - and if not, you can always transfer</p>
<p>Hey collegehopeful, don't worry about it. I've got a 1440, and I'm applying as well. At least you'll have company if we both get rejected!</p>