<p>Hi, I am an incoming freshmen to UMICH and I am seriously considering the EGL engineering honors program. I know that in order to apply you need 3.6 GPA, so even though I placed out of math and chem I am taking calc 115, gen chem 125/126 and 130, so I can boost the GPA. My question is, was that a smart choice on my part (in terms of schedule) and how hard is EGL to get in and keep up ( I heard you need 3.4 GPA to stay in EGL)? Thank you guys.</p>
<p>I went to an info session about it last year and they implied that as long as you meet the GPA requirement, you will probably get in. I think they said something like 31 out of 35 applicants were accepted, and the 4 that weren't accepted were either only interested in business or only interested in engineering, not the combination that EGL tries to promote.</p>
<p>Calc 115 and Chem 125/126 and 130 are fairly easy classes if you have had the material before, so it shouldn't be too hard to get an A or A-.</p>
<p>thanks for the info. now I can relax a bit. haha</p>
<p>Also, you might want to check out the new International Minor. I might do that instead of EGL since my scholarships won't pay for grad school and I am OOS.</p>
<p>I was interested in that too until I looked at the course requirements. If you haven't checked them out, you definitely should. One of the requirements is a 12 credit culture core.</p>
<p>Michigan</a> Engineering | Curriculum | Cultural Core</p>
<p>Just look at the list of options you have. To me, everything looked extremely boring and useless. You also have to take 2 semesters of a language at the second year level. So if you didn't place into the second year at orientation, then you have some catching up to do.</p>
<p>You might look into taking honors calc instead of the regular section. These will give you smaller class sizes, and no discussion groups (eg you'd be with the same lecturer for four times a weeks). If you're on top of your stuff, it should be just as easy (if not easier) than 115. I took math 185 (a solid A) as well as the chem's you mentioned above. I have no love for chem (never have, really) and got in the B+/A- range in each.</p>
<p>I'm thinking of applying for EGL next term. I'm happy to update you on my progress/the process once I go through with it. Another idea if you're interested is to set up an appointment with either an EGL mentor or going to talk with one of the advisers in the international office once you get to Michigan.</p>
<p>Good luck!
GF</p>
<p>"I was interested in that too until I looked at the course requirements. If you haven't checked them out, you definitely should. One of the requirements is a 12 credit culture core."</p>
<p>Well, the cultural core is kind of the whole point of the program...it's called Engineering GLOBAL Leadership for a reason. It is meant for engineers who want to take courses about a certain region of the world as well as get some business experience. Most people can pass out of the language requirement...the Spanish placement test was ridiculously easy. Plus, you have to take humanities classes to graduate anyway. I am using a 4 credit British History class I took first semester and I hope to satisfy the rest of the credit while studying abroad next summer. Note that they will wave 3 of the 12 required credits if you study or work abroad...so you really only need 9 cultural credits.</p>
<p>yea, I am very fluent in Korean (800 SAT II, not that it was hard), and I didn't take the placement exam because engineering students didn't get any credit for Korean. However, the courses do look demanding, so if I get in I would have to study hard. I was thinking about the honors Calc, but the math advisor told me that I should get into honors Calc, only if I wanted to learn more about math. Then he asked me if I was looking to minor in math, and if not Calc 115 would be fine for me.</p>