<p>DD has taken 3 AP tests - AP Bio in 10th grade, AP Eng & APUSH in 11th. On the common application it asks you to self-report the AP scores. My daughter got a 1 (AP BIO), 3 (APUSH), and 5 (AP ENG). </p>
<p>So my question is does she have to report the 1 on the common application? Will it look like she was trying to hide it if she leaves it out? Will it hurt her application chances if she has a 1?</p>
<p>That’a a good question… </p>
<p>I don’t know if all high schools actually require everyone in the AP class to take the AP test, so maybe you can leave it off. </p>
<p>When my son took AP Spanish, the high school actually ran it as a 2 year class - they referred to it as AP Spanish IV and AP Spanish V. He only took the test at the end of AP Spanish V, so he had no AP test score to report from Spanish IV.</p>
<p>I remember this topic being covered in other threads. There seem to be two schools of thought. Some feel that leaving off some of the scores is acceptable. The fact is, no school will see your scores unless you have them sent from the College Board. Others feel that it is unethical to not report every score if the school asks for it. </p>
<p>Also, some colleges give you a choice on which ones to report. Stanford, for example:</p>
<p>Since we do not require AP or IB examination scores, you may elect to self-report and submit whatever AP or IB examination scores you choose. </p>
<p>I personally fall into the category of feeling that it is dishonest to withhold a bad score (or two) if a college specifically asks you to self-report all of them. Others may feel differently.</p>
<p>Thank you for the replies. givings, I figured this had already been covered but have trouble with the search engine. If anyone has a link to another thread that discusses this I would appreciate it.</p>
<p>The problem is that the only school this will be an issue with is the one that accepts her (and she decides to go to) - as that is the only one that will get the offical report from College Board with all the scores. If she reports the score will it be counted against her? She is not going to be a science or math major.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/common-application/765637-ap-scores-applications.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/common-application/765637-ap-scores-applications.html</a></p>
<p>Actually, this thread looks more comprehensive:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/573874-ap-test-scores-admission-faq.html?highlight=scores[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/573874-ap-test-scores-admission-faq.html?highlight=scores</a></p>
<p>You can withhold a score for an additional charge. Instructions are on the AP website.</p>
<p>I see this as no different than Score Choice with the SAT. </p>
<p>But, you can also suppress the 1 (for an extra fee, of course) when you finally submit the AP score report.</p>
<p>I honestly have no ethical issues with leaving out a bad score if they ask you to self-report the scores. If they are asking for self-reported scores, the scores aren’t used to make a yes/no judgment. They are purely supplemental. It’s not like SAT/ACT scores, which are a big part of an admission decision. It’s a way to show off, much like putting down an award.</p>
<p>From Collegeboard.com:</p>
<p>Score Withholding
You may have one or more scores withheld from the report sent to the college you indicated on your answer sheet. To have a score withheld from the indicated college, AP Services must receive your written, signed request by mail or fax by June 15 accompanied by a $10 fee per score, per college. If your request is not received by June 15, the score is automatically sent to the college indicated on your answer sheet.</p>
<p>The score will be withheld from any future score reports sent to that particular college. You may later release the score to that college by sending AP Services a signed written request.</p>
<p>If you later decide to send an AP Score Report to a different college, however, you need to contact AP Services to have the score withheld from that score report.</p>
<p>A request to withhold a score does not permanently delete your score, and all exam scores, even those withheld from score reports sent to colleges, are sent to you and your school.</p>
<p>Score Cancellation
Score cancellation deletes an AP Exam score permanently from your records. Scores may be canceled at any time. However, for scores not to appear on the current year’s score report, AP services must receive a signed, written request by mail or fax by June 15. While there is no fee for this service, your exam fee is not refunded. The score report that you and your school receive will indicate that the score has been canceled.</p>
<p>I have not carefully read all the application requirements from different colleges but from what I have seen so far, I have yet to see any instruction from any college that requires an applicant to report AP scores. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m inclined to think that reporting AP scores is optional. It is dishonest only if they specifically tell you to report all AP scores and you purposely omit certain scores. It’s ok if ones don’t get extra consideration but I can’t believe that someone could be penalized for not submitting optional information.</p>
<p>All the applications I’ve seen (mostly selective colleges) do what the Common Application does. They ask you to list which AP tests you’ve taken and self-report the scores received. (They don’t ask for official score reports.) I think it’s dishonest not to include them all, but that’s easy for me to say because my kids have gotten great scores. Just about every admissions officer I’ve heard talk about APs say they don’t “count” the scores when admitting students. That they just want to see that you’ve taken the most demanding curriculum available. I hope naturally though that my kids’ great scores are a plus even though they say they don’t look at them. (Why do they ask for the scores if they don’t care?) </p>
<p>The one exception, I think that if you self-studied for an AP you are under no obligation to report a less than stellar score.</p>
<p>If I were an admissions officer and saw you took AP Bio, but didn’t submit the score, I’d assume you got a 1 on the AP, true in this case.</p>
<p>I don’t believe for one minute that the AP scores aren’t looked at, personally, as sort of quasi-SAT II’s.</p>
<p>Not all schools offer extensive AP courses, and many schools do not normally let kids take them until senior years. Seems to me, in this situation, it is unfair to favor kids with a lot of AP scores vs kids with no AP scores. I remember specifically at one college visit, the admission official said that they will look at your transcript and test scores within the context of each school curriculum. However, I admit that if you took a lot of AP courses before senior year and choose not to report any AP scores, this might stir up some questions.</p>
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<p>Do you feel the same about the ACT and it’s long-time score choice, which requires that the student pay to send scores from each test date? What about today’s Score Choice on the SAT? (Only Yale and a few other college specifically state that they want ALL scores, and the others are silent.)</p>
<p>The difference is that the Common App (last year’s, anyway) asks you to self-report ALL scores.</p>
<p>Exact wording from last year Common Application in the Standardized Tests Section:</p>
<pre><code> Standardized Tests
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<p>Be sure to note the tests required for each institution to which you are applying. The official scores from the appropriate testing agency must be submitted to each
institution as soon as possible. Please self-report your test scores below.</p>
<p>are you sure that CA uses the word “all” givings? While it says that it is “intended” to be a complete record, that does not show up in the instructions…which ttparent posted above. And, note, of course, that ACT’s score choice is the big elephant here.</p>
<p>While I’m only having some fun with words, IMO, Yale and a few others have made it clear that they do in fact want ALL scores. But, adcoms are really bright people and work for colleges with really smart lawyers. Thus, if a college wanted ALL scores, they’d clearly ask for them (similar to Yale). But, the fact is that they clearly do not ask for all scores (yet).</p>
<p>And, according to the faq, “testing history” should include self-studied tests, should it not? Hmmmm.</p>
<p>From the CA faq:</p>
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<p>Hmmm…you’re absolutely correct. The word “all” is not on the application itself. I wonder why it was such a big deal last year when we were going through all of this. After visiting amongst other parents, though, I do remember telling my D to report all of her scores. I think the consensus was that it looked worse to take the AP class and have NO score. (She made a 2 on a test her sophomore year.)</p>
<p>I went to the website and even Yale makes no mention of AP scores:</p>
<p>What test results should I report?</p>
<p>Yale requires results from all of the SAT I and SAT II tests or all of the ACT tests you have taken. If you choose to fulfill our testing requirement with SAT scores, then it is not necessary to send any scores from the ACT, even if you have taken the ACT. And if you choose to fulfill the requirement using the ACT, you do not need to send us any SAT scores, unless you wish.</p>
<p>However, and this is important, if you elect to use the SAT scores, you must report all scores from all SAT exams (both SAT I and SAT II) that you have taken. If you elect to use ACT scores, you must report all scores from all ACT exams you have taken. And if you choose to use a combination of SAT and ACT results, we require that you report all scores from both agencies.</p>