Application Opportunities/Strategy for Asian Students

College Search & Selection
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<p>In the competitive world of college admissions, many Asian students have shown themselves to be outstanding students and applicants. Given the high value of brand prestige among many in the Asian community, the ferocity to gain entry into some of America's best known colleges has become very, very intense with often unwelcome and cruel results. </p>

<p>In response to the great demographic swells of the past decade, more and more students are expanding their considered circle of colleges. For Asian students with strong high school records who are searching for colleges that might be interested in expanding their numbers of Asian students, the following information might be helpful. </p>

<p>% of Asian students , College</p>

<p>5% , Wake Forest
6% , Lehigh
7% , Vanderbilt
7% , Notre Dame
7% , U North Carolina
9% , W & M
11% , Georgetown
11% , U Rochester
12% , U Virginia
12% , Brandeis
12% , Boston College
13% , U Michigan
13% , Tufts
14% , U Chicago
14% , Wash U StL
15% , Princeton
15% , Yale
15% , U Penn
15% , Dartmouth
16% , Cornell
18% , Harvard
18% , Brown
18% , Georgia Tech
19% , Columbia
19% , Northwestern
20% , Emory
21% , Rice
21% , NYU
23% , Duke
24% , Carnegie Mellon
24% , USC
25% , Stanford
26% , MIT
26% , J Hopkins
39% , Cal Tech
41% , UCLA
45% , UC Berkeley</p>

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<p>That is just about the worst tactic I've ever seen. If your Asian, you'd probably want to stick with Asians. Asians have a tendency to apply to schools with more asians rather than less because they tend to stick well with each other. More Asians means more opporutnities to meet asians just like yourself.</p>

<p>Haha, Asians are kinda competitive when it comes to schools. Where do you get this cruel cruel result thing like your mom and dad will beat you or something. Its more a matter of respect, but if you can't make it, you at least have to go to a respectable school. Or, due to financial reasons, state schools is not a problem as well. It varies. I have hyper competitive asian friends and the least they can do i talk behind your back and say how you go to a bad school. Its not even that big of a deal.</p>

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<p>What now, Phead?</p>

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<p>Thank you for this information. It's interesting and could come in handy when I need to narrow down my college list (soon).</p>

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<p>Just don't report your race. It could only be an advantage if your a URM. If your not, you just won't get extra points. It won't be look down upon you if your a male asian. Though it is true some schools have quotas of some sort to control their demographics and racial diversity....they are not going to take points off you because you are asian.</p>

<p>Since when was sheet a profanity these days. Expletive word. Expletive word. Expletive word. beep</p>

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<p>A lot of asians won't put down their race, but couldn't the adcoms tell by your name?</p>

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<p>5% , Wake Forest
6% , Lehigh
7% , Vanderbilt
7% , Notre Dame
7% , U North Carolina
9% , W & M</p>

<p>These schools aren't prestigious in Asia, and most of them have a fratty/drinking culture.</p>

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<p>Yes- Adcoms know that the majority of students not putting down their race are caucasian and asian students. For instance, you'll rarely see an African American/latino student not put their ethnicity on a Harvard app.. that's just dumb. </p>

<p>Having a historically asian name also is a huge tip-off. You really can't escape AA</p>

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<p>There's a joke that schools with the word "College" in their name have to work much harder to attract Asian students, no matter how good they are.</p>

<p>I looked at the Wall Street Journal's [url=<a href="http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5Dlist%5B/url"&gt;http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf]list[/url&lt;/a&gt;] of schools (both colleges and universities) that are most successful at placing graduates in top US professional programs (medical, business, and law schools). The Top 10 includes 5 "universities", 4 "colleges", and 1 "institute". Then I looked up Asian % for these schools at collegeboard.com. </p>

<p>The four "colleges" in the WSJ Top 10 (Williams, Dartmouth, Amherst, Swarthmore) have 10-19 % Asians, average 13.8 %</p>

<p>The six universities in the WSJ Top 10 (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Duke, MIT) had 15-26 % Asians, average 20.3 %. So nearly 50% more Asian representation than at the "colleges". This is admittedly a very limited study, but it suggests that Asians can boost their chances of acceptance to the top undergraduate programs simply by looking for "colleges".</p>

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<p>Your conclusion is meaningless since it does not mention Berkeley. The WSJ study has thoroughly been "disproven" by many Berkeley supporters.</p>

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45% , UC Berkeley
Hence, the most prestigious university in Asia. (Well if we have some modesty, one of)</p>

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These schools aren't prestigious in Asia, and most of them have a fratty/drinking culture.

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<p>So I guess the reason why so many Asian-Ams attend community colleges is b/c they are "prestigious"?</p>

<p>The vast majority of AAs attend community colleges or public universities (and the spread has only gotten wider since 2000).</p>

<p>And of those who attended privates, less than 10% have gone to the Ivies.</p>

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Enrollment of Asian Americans by Sector</p>

<p>Sector Enrollment, 2000 % Change in Enrollment, 1990-2000
Private, four-year colleges 101,751 +53.4%
Public, four-year colleges 354,564 +42.2%
Community colleges 363,798 +73.3%

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<p>Um, am I the only one that thinks Asians apply to Princeton and Yale? They're pretty high up on the list, which indicates to me that this list won't be very helpful.</p>

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That is just about the worst tactic I've ever seen. If your Asian, you'd probably want to stick with Asians. Asians have a tendency to apply to schools with more asians rather than less because they tend to stick well with each other. More Asians means more opporutnities to meet asians just like yourself.

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<p>I hate being around asians (and I'm one), the sheer competitiveness and dog-eat-dog mentality of asian students (at least in my experience) is mind-boggling.</p>

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<p>People - not all Asians are smart. There are always going to smart ones and normal ones and ones that just like to not study. Just like any other race. You have to break that stereotype.</p>

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<p>k&s,</p>

<p>Asian Americans are new immigrants, among Asian Americans, there's a big disparity between the top earners and bottom wage earners. Most of the Asians at top colleges are children of the top wage earners. I don't really get your point about community colleges, sure there are a lot of Asians in community colleges, but there are a lot of folks in community colleges period. The schools at the top of this list are those that are trying compete for the best students in the country, and these schools don't appeal to Asians as much as the other schools they get into. One of the reasons is the large partying/frat scene which isn't very welcoming for Asian students, and as you can see a large percentage of these schools are in the south, so it's not a coincidence that Asians don't goto these schools in greater numbers.</p>