Application: Round Two

<p>Hey friends, I am a female and DS emailed about the decision. Unfortunately, the letter they sent is worthless because the court case didn’t pass, shame. I guess I will focus all my energy on Reed College now! I wish all the male applicants the best!</p>

<p>That’s a great attitude, I think some people on this thread could take heed of your relaxed nature about DS. But then again it is a bit fun to be stressed.</p>

<p>Yo Oak tree where you from? I’m applying to Reed from Boston</p>

<p>I’m sorry, Oak Tree. You’re handling it marvelously (admirable).
I’m applying to Reed, too, and, considering Deep Springs’ selectivity, it’s where I think I’ll most likely end up! (It’s unsurprising to me that Deep Springs and Reed have applicant overlap)</p>

<p>I’ll PM you if that’s the case. Good luck!</p>

<p>As for the guys – if anyone gets a call, I humbly request them to post in one of these threads as soon as they’re able to. Of course, I don’t mean to boss you around, but I’m just so worried, all the time!</p>

<p>I’m so sorry, female applicants. I’m sure you’ll all end up at great schools.</p>

<p>Well said.</p>

<p>Hey Oaktree, sorry if my previous post seemed abrupt and insensitive, just excited to hear about another prospective Reedie. To be honest, up until reading the posts from female applicants tonight i was really only looking at the co-education hearing as a determiner of higher or lower chances of me getting in. Something really clicked after reading those posts though. To be restricted by something as inconsequential as gender is wrong,unfair and just really sucks. Not to be melodramatic, but this has vastly reshaped outlook on gender inequality. Despite the sleep depriving and procrastination inducing excitement of deep springs, i feel that my application was not sufficient to gain me entry into Deep Springs. With that said, not even being granted the chance to worry about acceptance is really painful. It truly hurts to know that people like you aren’t even being considered as a result of your gender. Don’t let the bastards get you down!</p>

<p>I received a letter a few weeks ago from them as well, stating that they were interested in my application. I’m extremely disappointed that they cannot admit women this year. I was really looking forward to visiting and matriculating should I be accepted. Good luck to all still in the running for a spot. I’ll be back when they finally accept women.</p>

<p>Oaktree33 and Cricketcub: would you be transfer students? Or are you currently in high school?</p>

<p>Quite devastated, but looking into (hopefully) equally exciting gap year options. It’ll take a while to move on, but time will do that for me.</p>

<p>I also received a letter, and I’m not so much disappointed by the coeducation ruling as shocked by the poor form on the part of Deep Springs. They never should have opened the application pool if they were not fairly certain of potential admission. Maybe I’m being melodramatic, but every correspondence I had with them was doggedly optimistic. When it seems that anyone with legal experience could have seem this would be a potential roadblock, I would have appreciated more warning. I’m not sure I would want to transfer after all this. </p>

<p>All that said, I’m mostly just a disappointed high schooler. Good luck guys.</p>

<p>skeeter12: I’m exploring gap year options. I have pledged to apply until I cannot apply anymore, haha. The DS experience is something I would really like to experience first-hand. </p>

<p>Perhaps ApCom was fairly certain that they could admit women in 2013 at the time / maybe things were looking good then. It was a decision made by a bunch of them and they wouldn’t have just decided to let girls apply on a whim.</p>

<p>The legal issue is dissapointing for female applicants, and anyone who supports coeducation. It seems like amateurish behavior to have led female applicants on, but I guess that’s what you get with an admissions department run by students and not professionals.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t be too hard on them! I’m inclined to believe that they were just that hopeful; they wanted that fervently to allow women to enroll. I’m incredibly upset, but ultimately, there is no absolute good or bad–only how I choose to see situations. My Deep Springs essays turned into the templates for all of my other applications, so I don’t regret the time I spent on them–only the time I spent deeply and enthusiastically entertaining the thought of attending. But we sort of sign up for this when we, y’know, seek meaningful opportunities in life, in general.</p>

<p>That said, I’d also abstain from insulting the Applications Committee if I were you, particularly when, if I am not mistaken, your username appears to be a derivation of your legal name…</p>

<p>This entire admission cycle I was trying to refrain from writing on here. However, I cannot hold back any longer. </p>

<p>Do you really think you are that clever “skeeter12?” Do you really think, oh young philosopher, that it is not glaringly obvious that you are a student at Deep Springs? How unethical (and pathetic) would it be if a Princeton admissions officer went to an online forum that criticized Princeton, created a fake account, pretended to be a gender of which he is surely not, and then taunted a student who is criticizing Princeton? </p>

<p>It is my understanding that you cannot drink alcohol at Deep Springs, but someone appears to be drunk with power.</p>

<p>Ahahahaha, are <em>you</em> serious, areuseriouskid?? Even if skeeter12 is a DSer, I see little reason to believe that she is what you claim. She defended the school – is that so unbelievable an action? </p>

<p>If you are correct, I suppose I commend you for your perspicacity? As of now, however, it merely seems as if someone is drunk with paranoia!</p>

<p>I am critisizing this one aspect of deep springs, yet there are many I appreciate. At every college I am applying to, there are one or more things that I don’t like, but they are balanced out.</p>

<p>Spare me, “thepinko.” Every obscure book and recondite theory that you mention is with full understanding that someone from Deep Springs (Deep Springs’ Applications Committee, to be more specific) is reading it.</p>

<p>I don’t know which definitions of “obscure” and “recondite” you are using, but everything I’ve referenced falls well within the mainstream.
I’ve defended my often self-indulgent posts enough in these threads to render anything additional I say on the subject redundant.
Now, did I ever say I doubted ApCom would be reading these threads? Certainly not, and I certainly don’t. I’m well aware ApCom is reading, just doubtful skeeter12 is a representative of said council. However, I’m very irritated by what your comment implies regarding my motivation in discussing interesting ideas, so pardon me if, starting now, I disregard any further infantile behavior on your part.
I thank you for your bottomless insight.</p>

<p>Lets have an intelligent discussion without tossing around disparaging comments?</p>

<p>I see the conversation has well advanced but to the other Reed applicants out there, I’m from Northern Virginia, quite close to DC in fact, and I am looking to get just about as far away from this place as possible. Honestly, the reason I’m taking this whole coeducation fail thing so lightly is that over the past two months I have really meditated on my future and I just wasn’t feeling a strong pull to DS anymore. I agree with some of the other female posters though, I would not be very inclined to transfer to Deep Springs for one year, seeing as I plan on going to Africa with the Peace Corps right after college, because relocating multiple times will be costly.</p>

<p>Yes, let’s.
What about?
I think Deep Springs was clear that the coeducation decision was uncertain from the beginning. It is tragic that it hasn’t worked out. DS probably made a mistake, if what the alumni said is true – that is, if they didn’t seek adequate legal counsel, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call them amateurish for corresponding optimistically with female applicants. I certainly wouldn’t attribute this to the fact that the ApCom is run by students, since the decision was made on a much bigger stage than the ApCom.
As for what skeeter12 said, that “ultimately, there is no absolute good or bad–only how I choose to see situations”? I find this viewpoint overly solipsistic, and its statement as fact seems self-contradictory. I think coeducation being denied is bad. I think Deep Springs’ behavior was okay, but a bit careless.</p>