<p>So, I visited Penn today. I fell in love with it and I am sure that its my number 1 choice.
So, what would I need to get into Wharton ED? As in stats...
Also, can I put Economics from CAS if I do not get into Wharton on my application? Thanks!</p>
<p>Wharton needs superior stats, as in GPA above 3.9 and test scores of 2200+ (33 ACT plus), all while taking the most rigorous course load possible at your school. ED acceptance rates are a much higher than RD (RD is 14% on average). However, a good deal of ED applicants have a hook of some sort, so not having a hook will reduce your ED chances (but they will still be higher than 14%). I can’t answer your CAS question though :(</p>
<p>Thanks for the info! Really helpful. The 3.9 GPA is that weighted or unweighted…and do you have to take both the SAT and ACT to get in…</p>
<p>3.9 unweighted at least, you only have to submit one score but students generally take both and and submit their highest.</p>
<p>Penn requires you to submit all test scores from all sittings.</p>
<p>But not both sat and act, since no college can tell if you tool them both or just one.</p>
<p>From Penn’s website: "Penn requires either the SAT Reasoning Test and two SAT Subject Tests OR the ACT with Writing. No preference is given to either test. However, Penn requires that applicants submit all testing results from each administration of the ACT, SAT, and SAT Subject Tests. "</p>
<p>This means you must submit both your SAT and ACT if both were taken.</p>
<p>What if you take the SAT more then once? Would you have to submit both scores or just your highest ones?</p>
<p>Wait from each administration means from each time, alright thanks.</p>
<p>They canny tell If you took them, that’s what I’m saying. There is no possible way for them to tell that student 1 took them both but only submitted one. Thank you selective score reporting…</p>
<p>Underhanded I know, but it can holistically make your file better. And the people you are applying against? They are going to do the same thing</p>
<p>Thanks EsotericalApp. That kinda intimidated me, but your points made me feel better. You’ve been a great help!</p>
<p>Np, I’ve done plenty of research into the subject</p>
<p>academic kid-if you’re applying to wharton, its like do or die since its a school in itself and you cannot opt to be considered for another school in penn like CAS. So if you’re applying to wharton you either get accepted (Damn tough) or you get rejected as a whole.</p>
<p>If you want to go to Wharton apply to Wharton, don’t go in already planning to transfer. It is actually quite competitive to transfer, there are only around 20 spots and it’s mostly based on GPA which is hard to predict before you’ve been to college. I also think people really exaggerate the difference in difficulty of admission to the college and to Wharton. Wharton is very specialized, so there is a specific type of person that would be successful there not based on “stats”.
Also, to say that you “need” a 3.9 Unweighted GPA and 2200+ SAT scores is very misleading. A 3.9 at one high school is very different from a 3.9 at another high school. At some schools a 3.7 unweighted GPA having taken the toughest courseload can put you in the top five percent of the class. Admissions is not just based on meeting cutoffs for test scores and grades, there is also an element of subjectivity with essays and recommendations which you really can’t control.</p>
<p>Thanks for your insight, you made really valid points!</p>
<p>Like prinki said, it’s a do-or-die situation when choosing Wharton over CAS. ED rates are very misleading, because they weed out the vast majority of people who don’t think they have a legitimate shot. </p>
<p>By the way, Esoterical is mistaken–Wharton was 8.9% ED and 5.4% RD this year for a 7.5% admit rate overall. Remember there’s also a solid half of the class below the average two-part SAT score of 1440. He/she is however correct in saying that rigor is critical.</p>
<p>And as poeme said, Wharton and CAS have essentially identical GPA/SATs, but Wharton kids are pretty different in the sense that working at a hedge fund the summer before freshman year is normal in Wharton and odd in CAS–not something you pick up on by looking purely at admit rates.</p>
<p>I was mentioning the overall rate of
Acceptance for upenn, not for
Wharton.</p>
<p>Then you are less off: <a href=“http://thedp.com/files/interactives/2011/03/31/0331admissions.swf[/url]”>http://thedp.com/files/interactives/2011/03/31/0331admissions.swf</a> points to an ED rate of 26% and an RD rate of 9.5%, though obviously that varies greatly school-to-school. If Wharton’s ED was only 8.9% then one stands to reason the ED rate to the rest of Penn was at or above 30% (I hear it’s buoyed by a increase in the size of the nursing and engineering classes). But like I said, that doesn’t automatically triple your chances of admission, because it’s a self-selecting pool.</p>
<p>Wharton '15 - how do you have Wharton admit stats? I didn’t see them published anywhere</p>