<p>They tend to be *******s a lot. Mainly to 4 digs. But, the ones I know are now pretty cool guys. But they tend to be real tools a lot.</p>
<p>Hornet define "Tools" they look to give 4digs are hard time?</p>
<p>tools are stract about military standards and behavior to an extreme.</p>
<p>Basically, Honor Guard treats 4<em>s in Honor Guard almost like they are in BCT...for the whole year. They also tend to make lots of corrections to passing 4</em>s. One of my favorites was a comment that we were not running fast enough on the T-zo.</p>
<p>The honor guard is very uptight - about nearly everything. It's what come with being in charge of guarding the flag and being one of the best drill teams anywhere...as well as exemplifying military standards across the wing.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that I don't care how uptight they want to be, I just wish they didn't try to push it on others. There are exceptions of course...the honor guard in my squadron are pretty friendly.</p>
<p>The 2-degree that escorted me last week had a 2-degree friend who was Honor Guard that I got to talk to for a while. Sometimes he joked around more than the rest. Maybe it was because he had a GR that afternoon...</p>
<p>I thought he was pretty cool, though. I made the mistake of giving my last name to him, and he said he'd look for me during Beast. Oops.</p>
<p>Good work. After recognition they can be pretty cool, the firstie honor guard dude in my squad is awesome now. Cool guy. But pre-recognition, it sucks being a 4 dig around one of them.</p>
<p>we had a 3-dig hg, and while he was tough on us, he was fair. i was glad to have someone who could hold us to a standard who did it himself.</p>
<p>This is totally off-topic, but...
I have a friend who's getting recruited for West Point (yeah, yeah, this is the Air Force board, but the army kids scare me). From what I can tell, he doesn't want to srve the eight years required service and it seems that he's only considering it because it's free and he can run cross-country. I was very surprised when I found out he actually applied because he just doesn't seem the type who'd serve in the military (neither do I, but I'm going to try anyways). But I think he's seriously considering going, and I don't think he has a CLUE what he's getting into- I don't think he knows much about beast or how they treat plebes; all he knows is that it's a hard place to go to. Think he should go? I really don't, but it seems he has no other place to go that would give him a scholarship</p>
<p>^^^^^
If your friend does accept an appointment to West Point, he will probably end up quitting during Beast Barracks or during plebe year.</p>
<p>ANYONE who goes to any service academy for purpose of the free education: 1) will probably not make it through plebe year or all four years anyway, 2) SHOULD not go in the first place because he/she is taking a slot from someone who wants to serve. There are times when it is beyond tough, and keeping your eye on the prize is all you have. If there is no prize for you, then it's too easy to simply quit -- which is what will probably happen to your friend.</p>
<p>i wouldn't be too fast to pass judgment. some of the ppl who are here i would not have ever pictured making it and they did. For one, there was someone two eyars older than me who went ot west point who was the last person i could see takeing orders and being disciplined, and he's doing fine too. And as far as not knowing what you're getting yourself into, a current senior (co-captain of the b-ball team) from my same shcool did not know what he was getting into, and he's been fine - only 37 days away. so if he wants, i'd say go for it. he can always leave if he decides its not for him</p>
<p>You guys make pretty good points- and I love how I've sabatoged my own board by going totally off-topic.
I just really don't like the fact that he's said several times he doesn't really want to serve the eight year commitment. West point was never his first choice and he really doesn't want to go, but I think it's the only place that's recruited/hasn't rejected him for admission. He really wants to go to college. Any other comments?</p>
<p>nah.. eagle i disagree. I think that chances are if he does not know what he's getting into or just wants a free education he is the wrong place. As you and I both know many of the problems that arise here come from people who forget the primary goal of this place... to train officers for our Air Force. If you place free education above that then even if you do make it chances are your priorities are skewed. To quote my Lt Col Math teacher (you can prob figure out who he is) "the last thing i want on a mission is someone who just rides through this place forgetting why they're here." I have a couple friends who didn't make it in here (or got P-schooled) and I can think of a couple athletes/ future 2 your dropouts i wish they had been replaced with. So fudge I think you should tell your friend to really weigh the commitment before he comes and remind him why we are all here... not to be athletes, or 4.0 students, but officers.</p>
<p>just one more. the stuff i said above was ppl who ended up wanting to go. but i also know someone very close who did not go because he wanted to, and was miserable, and left after the second year. anyone who comes here needs to want it by the time they inprocess. i wasn't sure until after i signed the paperwork (around april 30 last year) that i was doing it for me and no one else.</p>