<p>Go with your gut, columbiahopeful. If that is Penn, go for it. If that is staying where you are, stay. You will do well from either place, based on you and your efforts. Not based on someone's "prestige" ranking.</p>
<p>I'm not questioning your credentials ma'am. As for mojojo, you're right, I don't particularly like you. That being said, my dislike isn't entirely unfounded.</p>
<p>Which is why (to both mojojo and brand) I explicitly qualified my statements as applying only to a few areas, grad school excluded.</p>
<p>particularly? I was expecting more along the lines of "hate" and to comment on your last sentence....yes it is. You don't know me.</p>
<p>jmmom, going to all these other schools...how did you like berkeley? did you get freaked out by the bart or the bums?!</p>
<p>When you reply </p>
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<p>to my statement that is referring to overall placement for these schools, I assume you are arguing against that. I have already made it clear that I agree with you regarding i-banking and consulting.</p>
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my comments were confined to a very specific area of corp. recruiting
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Yes, IB and consulting. Two very small worlds, very highly compensated, with very narrow values. Where prestige is the end-all and be-all. If the OP is interested in those arenas, your comments may have some validity. I don't see where he indicates any interest in those fields. </p>
<p>When you are excelling at a top 15 school, the world can be your oyster. Based on you and your own achievements. Many people would value that over being able to name drop.</p>
<p>You just have to look inside yourself for what you want. Not outside to the opinions of others.</p>
<p>And I don't want to demean IB and consulting. But the folks there too often have a small world view, which I don't want to see take over your own internal motivations.</p>
<p>mojo - I am a city person. The BART? You mean Bay Area Rapid Transit? What is to be freaked out about that? I loved it. The bums? Telegraph Avenue? Colorful ;). And I was there "back in the day."</p>
<p>well, the bart goes through the oakland area and it gets all ghetto and depressive! lol Telegraph wasnt that bad to me though, it was just hippie-ish. If you have ever been to venice beach in so cal, thats what it reminded me of!</p>
<p>In all fairness to Northwestern, it does exceptionally well w. consulting. </p>
<p>In fact, it is on more target lists than is Dartmouth and most other ivies besides Penn, H, Y, and P. </p>
<p>my proof to follow</p>
<p>This is from the vault guide to consulting. It lists core schools for consulting firms, but should give you some idea where the most elite firms (McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Mercer, Monitor) recruit. The biggest lesson isn't looking at the exact numbers, but rather that the liberal arts schools do just as well or better than the business schools for the most elite firms.</p>
<p>In order of # of the top 5 that directly recruit on campus:</p>
<p>All 5
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Penn (Wharton and College)</p>
<p>4/5
Dartmouth
Princeton
Northwestern</p>
<p>3/5
MIT
Michigan</p>
<p>2/5
Duke
UVA
CAL
Amherst
Williams
Columbia</p>
<p>1/5
Brown
Cornell
Chicago
Emory
Rice
UNC
UIUC
Notre Dame
UT- Austin
BYU
Georgetown
SMU
Claremont college system (Pomona and Harvey Mudd)</p>
<p>Columbiahopeful,
I doubt that this list is accurate. I wouldn't give much credibility to it.</p>
<p>Here you go, yahoo:</p>
<p>Link to the official vault report</p>
<p>To transfer simply for a school's name seems pretty superficial. A top 15 school is prestigious enough. Too be honest, a few years out of college I don't think anyone cares. As long as you went to a top 20 school, your fine. People respect any great school, whether it's Penn or Amherst or Northwestern...</p>
<p>Columbiahopeful, I am curious as to why you want to transfer from Northwestern. How is Northwestern in terms of grading, quality of academics and social life?</p>
<p>Columbiahopeful,</p>
<p>The list you posted above in post #31 and which I presume you got from the thread listed in post #30 above is bogus.</p>
<p>I own a copy of Vault's Career Guide to Consulting which I only just received in the past one month. It is copyrighted 2002, so I'm presuming there have been no changes since this timeframe.</p>
<p>I've searched it from page 1 to its final page (180)--and nowhere in it does it say anything about which firms recruit at which schools.</p>
<p>Now, perhaps slipper1234 was referring to a different vault guide, for example "Vault's Guide to the top 50 consulting firms"--but it is not, I repeat not, in "Vault's Career Guide to Consulting" which leads me to question the validity of the data overall. </p>
<p>Does anyone on here own a copy of "Vault's Guide to the top 50 consulting firms--because I'd like to know if that says anything at all about the recruiting of these companies.</p>
<p>(I'm beginning to believe this may simply be an "urban myth" that was perpetuated some years back and has grown a life of its own).</p>
<p>The link posted above by nutmeg doesn't work--and I've been checking some of the websites of these companies (for example, Mercer--which has since merged and whose new name is Oliver Wyman). </p>
<p>Here is their link to where they recruit for General Management Consulting:
<a href="http://www.oliverwyman.com/ow/137.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.oliverwyman.com/ow/137.htm</a></p>
<p>and here is where they recruit for Financial Services Consulting in North America:
<a href="http://www.oliverwyman.com/ow/2039.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.oliverwyman.com/ow/2039.htm</a></p>
<p>Based upon this and other websites checked, the information provided in posts #30 and 31 are invalid (of course, this information changes often, so it would be very difficult for Vault to stay up-to-date on each firm's recruiting practices)</p>