<p>i got into penn last night (which was very bitter sweet for me). I applied there ED 3 years ago and got deferred and then wait listed... Anyways, I go to a top 15 school right and am excelling. Do you think it is worth making a move for Penn, since it is closer to my home and people generally perceive it as more prestigious than the place I am am at now. Are those reasons to go?</p>
<p>if you are happy at your school, i dont see a reason to go to penn, unless you are just in need to see your family, or if you are in financial debt and penn is giving you a dope financial aid offer. Undergraduate prestige never matters, what matters is your graduate school. And since you said you are at a top 15 school, your school is already prestigious.</p>
<p>undergrad prestige is not completely irrelevant. whether it be for grad school or for getting the most prestigious jobs right out of school, it is almost always better to go to a big-name school. that being said, it sounds like you will be fine either way. your decision to transfer in this case should be based on your future plans--grad school--maybe stay put. investment banking or consulting, perhaps go to penn. where are you currently going to school?</p>
<p>he/she said that his/her school is in the top 15, what more prestige do you need? Thats being ridiculous.</p>
<p>*[edited for courtesy - Mod JEM]*For investment banking or consulting firms, you will do a lot better at Penn than Northwestern. Penn is a target school, whereas Northwestern, while very good, is not. I don't necessarily think that is right or fair, but that is the way things go.</p>
<p>*[ad hominem comment edited out - Mod JEM]*Schools dont care about prestige. Prestige is only an ideology some people believe in. The rankings are also subjective to change. It doesnt mean that just because he goes to Upenn, its going to help him/her in any way. His/her school is already good enough, if thats what really matters.</p>
<p>*[edited out for courtesy - Mod JEM]*And yes, grad schools (in almost any field) almost certainly do care about institutional prestige. Investment banking and consulting firms certainly do as well, whether or not you think that is fair. I am not saying going to Penn would definitely help him/her. I specifically said that if they were going to grad school they might consider staying put and continuing to excel. However, for anything else they would almost certainly be better off at Penn. Also, isn't it a little ironic that you are in this thread, talking about what kind of job or grad school opportunities this kid will have coming from a Top 15 school vs Penn? You go to a community college in California. That doesn't make you special or knowledgeable, and nothing you have said in any thread on this site belies that assessment.</p>
<p>The money thing is really a non-issue. The real issue here is very simple. Regardless of any other considerations, you are currently a community college student in California. Not always, as you could certainly always transfer. However, at the moment, you had to admit that your knowledge about elite schools in the midwest and northeast is inherently limited. Why is that so difficult for you? And yes....I happen to be a Classics major.</p>
<p>first of all, i didnt know columbia hopeful attended northwestern. He/She just said "top 15 school". And though I may not know the difference between certain programs at certain schools (since i could care less as it doesnt relate to me), I do know that with hard work and dedication it doesnt matter what school you go to as I have seen people from cal state long beach and ucla get into harvard law.</p>
<p>Again, your anecdotal evidence doesn't disprove anything I said. Of course its possible to get into good grad schools and land prestigious internships from almost any school. That being said, it is often much more difficult to do than than from a more prestigious school. In general, you are better off for both grad school and corp recruiting at at the most prestigious universities. There is also a tangible benefit to being at a top 10 ivy vs. another top 15 school.* [edited for courtesy - Mod JEM]*</p>
<p>I wasnt trying to disprove you! I was just stating my observation! I dont know why you get so defensive over what to me, seems like nothing...</p>
<p>now, now people. let's play nice. </p>
<p>As to the actual issue of this thread, assuming the OP does in fact attend Northwestern, I don't think Penn CAS is any more impressive than Northwestern CAS and your job/grad placement will be about the same.</p>
<p>that isn't entirely true...not for ibanking or consulting</p>
<p>double post (see above)</p>
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This is an easy statement to make, but one which often lacks any real meaning.</p>
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<p>jmmom, thanks for saying that, because thats what i have been trying to say all along! (check out the first post!) lol</p>
<p>maximinusthrax, its not a matter of whether or not i am an idiot, its just that you dont like me. Its very obvious, and its not like we have to sit here and be friends.</p>
<p>I can see many others agree with what i have been saying all along! Thanks peeps!</p>
<p>With all due respect ma'am, my comments were confined to a very specific area of corp. recruiting, and I said as much in my post. Target schools are as follows: Ivies, Stanford, MIT, and to a lesser extent, ASW and Duke</p>
<p>it really isn't "about the same though"</p>
<p>I agree a/b i-banking and consulting. For grad school placement and most other areas of employment, the difference will be negligible. Obviously Penn is known for its success in these areas.</p>
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<p>Again, depends on what you're referring to. For overall placement and employment, a Penn grad isn't going to have a leg up on a Northwestern grad just because he's from Penn.</p>
<p>first of all, how do we even know if columbia hopeful wants to do ibanking or consulting? these are all assumptions since the OP never mentioned it in the original post! I still dont see why we are arguing over ibanking.</p>