<p>As the title states.</p>
<p>For example, if a university has its average GPA as a 4.0 and average SAT as a 2000, do athletes who get recruited affect the data whatsoever?</p>
<p>Of course. They are attend the same school as everyone else.</p>
<p>Oh, okay. Thank you!</p>
<p>I was always under the impression that since college athletes were recruited, their data wasn’t included.</p>
<p>Yes, their info is included. Many people on CC think that’s where the student population below 25%ile comes from.</p>
<p>^^^And that is BS, particularly in top DI and DIII!</p>
<p>^^^^</p>
<p>I don’t think bottom 25%ile comes from unhooked applicants.</p>
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<p>Uh, not necessarily. In theory, the Common Data Set is supposed to include ALL students who are registered in the Fall. But that is only in the directions, and colleges are free to do what they want and report what they want. Of course, not all colleges even release their CDS. For many years, a certain college in Southern California used to consider its athletes ‘special students’ for reporting purposes, i.e., not part of the CDS. Then of course, there are rumors that SAT-heavy colleges encourage athletes to take the ACT which it does not get used in the rankings.</p>
<p>So, caveat emptor.</p>
<p>It’s not that the bottom 25% is composed solely of athletes, or that all athletes are in the bottom 25%. But it may well be true at many schools which recruit athletes that athletes are more common in the bottom 25% than they are in the top 25%. </p>
<p>There may well be athletes among the very top students at any given school. But at the same time most schools will acknowledge that they are willing to “give a little” on the academic side of admissions if the athlete brings significant athletic prowess to the school’s team. It’s like any other hook - it’s an advantage to the school, so the school is willing to bend a bit to gain that advantage.</p>
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<p>Source please?</p>
<p>Sorry… What are “unhooked” applicants?</p>
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As you say, colleges can fudge the info, but that is true of ANYTHING, including what they put out on their own web sites (or what they provide to US News). My DW worked in the office which produced the CDS for a very large U. One reason they worked directly for the Provost was so they had the weight to collect the correct info. IMO, those stats aren’t really what schools care much about, though. More critical pieces of info for sports are grades and graduation rates.
Absolutely true. One person in the IR office showed a pool of students with awful grades and stats who were admitted, asking if anyone could guess the group. Most guessed either basketball or football (usually good guesses). It was actually male dancers.
The rank and file of students - those not recruited for something.</p>
<p>I think athletes generally make up most of the bottom 25%.</p>
<p>I think it depends on the school.</p>
<p>The bottom 25%, whoever they are, do not affect the university’s statistics for SAT because only the 25%-75% range are reported. Unless there are some weird exceptions, they would count for the stat of how many admits were in the top 10% of their class.</p>
<p>So, just to use another example, the average GPA/ SAT/ ACT for UCs do in fact include athletes? </p>
<p>[University</a> of California - Freshman admission profile](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/campuses/berkeley/freshman-profile/index.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/campuses/berkeley/freshman-profile/index.html)</p>