<p>Jeez... who revived this dumb thread :(.</p>
<p>Attempting to classify an entire race is just plain stupid. There is no point to this type of classification, it says nothing about an individual in a specific race.</p>
<p>The statistics are out there, there was no point to even starting this thread. I surmise the OP already knew the answer to his "question" before posting this thread, and that he was just trying to stroke his net-ego.</p>
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<p>To prove there's stuff I'm personally interested in, I just thought I'd continue.</p>
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all the ppl saying its culture need to understand this: in america, ppl of different races often live in the same building (even same unit), go to the same skool, have the same jobs, use the same money, public toliet, telephone system, spoken language, shopping centers, and streets
The thing is, in the US, there is a trend towards no culture. This is proven by the above quote. And people say it like it's a GOOD thing. But no, culture is an inherent factor in deciding who we are and our morals, etc. We should be trying to understand and appreciate the differences in culture and what they endow to different people, which is what makes life interesting.</p>
<p>Of course there is "your culture my culture". We should be proud of that... (apparently not). The US is striving for it with stuff like African-American Awareness month. You think it sounds stupid? Well, it's probably our fault we aren't aware of the culture and thus we are required to set aside a chronological period designated to it. If the world was perfect, then everyday would be African-American awareness day. Or Islamic Awareness day. Or whatever.</p>
<p>If the US indeed is moving towards a trend of culture-less mediocrity, it's very depressing. I live in Bangkok, so cultural differences is a big part of life. I've met a lot of Americans who don't even know where it is. "Is it in China?" But I agree on one thing. Perceived superiority is bad. But differences aren't.</p>
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Damn these chapter long posts!
Here's another one. Too bad.</p>
<p>first of all, most of this thread and those like it r mostly filled w/ sarcasm and jokes, my eyes bleeding cuz u ppl r repeating what other ppl sed b4, and its really those ppl that killed these threads, but if u want, heres sth serious</p>
<p>i m not saying there is no culture, there is an United culture of the United States of North America, and i bet theres a general culture of bangkok, like, customs and stuff that is characteristic of ur city</p>
<p>yea, there r subcultures, like african americans, but that isnt a race of people. watched fresh prince or malibu's most wanted?</p>
<p>there cant be "cultureless" tho. u turn on a movie, u talk to anyone, u open the newspaper, thats culture. u cant define it since its going to be hetero due to environment, age, status, community, and preferences. it can be due to race also, but only b/c so many ppl r racist</p>
<p>but what does that have to do with this thread? follow the conversation or create a new one. i wont feel like posting there any less than here</p>
<p>well, if u really want to talk about this, look for nbachris, that guy could be a professional writer</p>
<p>"my eyes are bleedinf cuz u ppl r repeating what other ppl sed b4"</p>
<p>amen to that.</p>
<p>thats a miss quote, i didnt sed "are" and i never will...</p>
<p>^^sorry. :D</p>
<p>Asians are not smarter than any other race.</p>
<p>Many of the Asians we know in America have parents who grew up in a place like, say, Taiwan. Most Asian countries, given their density, are extremely competetive so in order to become successful in a foreign country you have to be insanely smart.</p>
<p>Teaching styles and culture are different. In a Taiwanese school, people learn through repetition. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Yes, it is damn boring, but it gets the job done. It's why Asians test scores tend to be higher. In addition culture doesn't push one to go too far off the beaten path. The possibility of taking a year off for an exchange program is horrifying to many Taiwanese parents, because it could disrupt their kids studies. You lose creativity to this advantage.</p>
<p>I've met some insanely smart Taiwanese, and I've met some really stupid Taiwanese too.</p>
<p>Also I think when you combine Asian repetition culture with American creative culture you get the best of both worlds, hence all of the insanely smart kids at the Taipei American Scool.</p>
<p>It's more just how you are taught than race that matter when it comes to defining things like this.</p>
<p>can stupid people get into the university of chicago?
can ugly people become miss america?
can i eat your banana nut muffin?</p>
<p>Yea I agree with cryto..Ridiculous and racist concepts like African American culture awareness, and "fill-in-minority-or-group-percieved-to-be-opressed-group" awareness takes too much of our time and attention away from academics and other interesting stuff is one of the reasons why American kids (minorites especially) lagg behind. How can you succeed if you're Black or Hispanic and all you hear about is how special "black" culture or how unique "hispanic" culture is? Is this not the same thought process that caused slavery? They too thought that the content of a man's mind was determined by his race. I think its high time we got rid of this politically correct feel good ******** mantra of diversity and multicultual awareness and focus on whats important.</p>
<p>Oh, and since I spent seven years in a private catholic school in India, let me tell you key differences in education there and at my current school. First, there was no tolerance for not having homework done. Starting in the first grade, you would be hit in the palms with a ruler. As you progressed through grades, punishments might get more severe (as in, harder beatings, or public humiliatation in form of standing outside of school gates, which was distasteful). Result? Fewer people didn't turn in their homework in one year there than do people in one week in the states. Second; learning grammar, elocution, and writing skills starting in the 2nd grade. By 6th grade, we had finished reading Oliver Twist, The Illiad, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, et al..Just as a comparison, the 9th grade AP English class reads The Illiad. We also had to memorize poems by Tennyson, Yeats, Kipling, etc, and recite them in front of the class for part of our final grade. We also learned proper grammar (seperate classes for literature and grammar) and by 7th grade any of my classmates could score high on the writing section. These are just a few of the examples how American education is dumbed down in public school. Here is a few of the things we didn't have: "___" awareness month, group projects, presentations, journal entries, diversity week, any clubs, etc.</p>
<p>asians are smart because they are stereotyped as smart race and asian parents are hardcore towards education</p>
<p>i smell spam</p>
<p>OMFG... you guys just had to bring this stupid thread up from the dead didn't you? Why can't we just not post to this extremely horrible thread and let it die.</p>
<p>Asian parents are much more strict with their children than other races. Generally anyway.. for example there are like only 8 Asians in my grade. 1 is ranked #1, 4 of them are in the top 30. The other 3 are around top 70. This is in a class of 470 students. My sister who just graduated last year was #1 also. One of her Azn friends was like ranked 3rd. The year before her a Korean girl was #1. This is in a town in southern New Jersey, where the asian population is around 1%. </p>
<p>Also my Philippino friend's sister who is one grade up on us also is number 1.</p>
<p>When Asians have high class ranks, that does not necessarily mean that their parents are strict with them. There is a difference between self-motivation and parental pressure.</p>
<p>And please, stop the thread necromancy.</p>
<p>ok, this was way too long of a thread to read, and odds are this has already been said.</p>
<p>Race is simply a social construct. Blacks/Asians/Whites/Hispanics etc. are no different once you get below their skin. There have been many new studies on genetics proving this, Newsweek if I recall had a big one a few months ago.</p>
<p>People are not smarter nor athletic because of their race itself. (Actually, with African-Americans, this is a little different because they were bred during slavery)</p>
<p>Race in and of itself has no effect on intellectual or athletic ability. It is simply the social enviornments that race creates that causes these disparities.</p>
<p>believe it or not, succeeding in class can come from parental pressure. i know bcuz my cousins have been driven by their HYP-obsessed mother since they were born. she has planned their entire future. she makes them skip courses and makes them take AP courses and screams and hits them if they're like, not first in a competition. and now one of them is at harvard and the other is at princeton. but they're not really that that smart, to tell u the truth. but their mother watches over their schoolwork like a hawk. she is constantly around, asking questions and yelling how their ivy chances will be doomed if they dont do well in the smallest things. i have all mentioned this in another thread, including the next. once i was at my cousins' house for a playdate with the third child, who is in my grade. her mother demanded that she spend two hours practicing her violin. i talked a bit while she played, and between songs, she would answer briefly. she was playing diligently when her mother called her down bcuz she believed she was talking to me. instead of scolding her, she hit my cousin until she cried. i told my aunt that i got a ninety on a test and she stiffened. if i had been her daughter she would have probably beat me.</p>
<p>asians are not inherently smart- i lived in korea from my birth till 2002, and there are a LOT of stupid people. it's just that the best of those ppl come to america. think about it. if you suck in your class, do you think your parents will give up their lives and jobs to get you an american education? no. the smart ones come. and we have the americans here, trying to compete with those who were so called 'the bests of [insert country here]'. it's obvious that asians seem smarter, but no, they are not inherently smarter.</p>
<p>by the way, iluvas: THAT IS HORRIBLE!! hit someone for TALKING? while playing VIOLIN? god, she has crossed the line of the 'asian punishment'.</p>
<p>Wanna be Brown..What does being bred during slavery or whatever have anything to do with intelligence? There are smart black people around, like Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, etc...</p>
<p>wantascholarship - the funny thing is, i think that my cousin prefers to keep her current mom than to have a more laid-back mother. while its pretty stressed for her (she found a white hair recently, and shes 13) i think she likes that her mom pushes her so much. </p>
<p>my cousin, thanks 2 her mom, is now yale-obsessed, to the extreme. in fact, her obsession on achieving worries me sometimes. she is extremely proud of her harvard-princeton siblings and seems to know that she will probably b able 2 get into yale, under her mom's iron fist.</p>