<p>so it looks like the Israeli election is now gonna change again. This situation looks bad and not about to get better anytime soon.</p>
<p>Sharon's conditions worsens.......</p>
<p>It's quite a bad thing for the whole middle east peace process, if you could call it that... with Iran gearing up to destroy Israel and all. </p>
<p>I hope we get some sign of what is happening - I'm representing Israel in our local MUN this February!</p>
<p>This is significant...Israel may lose its "oldest soldier" in the very near future.</p>
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<p>I don't know if that's really true. With people lost on both sides it could mean a fresh start.</p>
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<p>Yah, like Iran has nothing better to do LOL.</p>
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<p>He wasnt any soldier, he was a terrorist. Feel free to read his bio at Wiki and judge for yourself.</p>
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<p>I'd hate myself if i were you.</p>
<p>Not all Americans laughed when Arafat died. (you're talking to one who didn't)</p>
<p>I don't feel any sympathy for Sharon. War is one thing .... but he advocated the rape of arab women and the killing of children during his "soldier" days.</p>
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<p>That's an interesting position. I'd love to hear your proposed solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.</p>
<p>People have strokes and get hurt...that's life.....Sharon...yeah...I think a new Prime Minister will actually speed up the peace process...furthermore Sharon committed a number of massacres against Muslim groups back when he was a high officer in the Israeli armed forces...further, he's continuously used violence in forcing Palestinians to rellocate...there's just not much said about such occurences in the mainstream..</p>
<p>Further...this is partly a religous conflict...but it's actually conflict over the who rules the state....because either way, someones going to be opressed by the ruling party.....furthermore, there was a time that Muslims and Jews lived in peace in Israel......basically, support comes from the West in terms of political interests......you could explain the conflict in terms of primordial cultural and religous beliefs, but in the end it'll break down to politics and control of state structures....and due to Israel's weak state structure, it's safe to say this conflict won't subside anytime soon.</p>
<p>should've used the southbeach diet or something</p>
<p>KillerAngel - I won't hate myself, sorry. Personally, I'm not on either side. I feel like I don't know enough about it to take a side, and I don't really want to - it's partly a religious conflict and I'm part of neither religions involed. Our MUN teacher gave me a choice between Israel and Iraq for the conference. We have 18 other countries, but I'm the head delegate so I get put on the big ones. </p>
<p>As for speeding up the peace process - it might, but it might not. It depends on the new leadership and the speed with which they gain the accountability needed to do that. A lot of Israelis (and Palestinians - both sides are responsible here) want to keep fighting. Even one of my friends at school wants to go to Israel to join the Defense Army after high school! We're all quite scared for her.</p>
<p>KillerAngel and Nahrafsfa, with all due respect, the blame does NOT in any shape or form belong in the shoulders of Israel/Sharon. Without Sharon and other Israeli prime ministers, there would be no peace process. Israel has always been the one to further the process. After the withdraw from Gaza earlier this year, Abbas said, I renew my commitment to continuing the road he [Arafat] began and for which he made a lot of sacrifices, until the Palestinian flag flies from the walls, minarets and churches of Jerusalem.</p>
<p>Nahrafsfa, you wrote that Ariel Sharon was a terrorist, and that his extreme measures of force are just not shown very much in the press. Would I be safe in assuming that you are not in favor of Israel? If Israel is such an aggresor why was Gaza given back, furthermore, were is the peace that was promised? Since Gaza was returned, 10 Israeli civilians have been murdered in terror attacks. Was the kidnapping and murder of Sasson Nuriel, a Jerusalem candy store owner widely reported? No. What about the stabbing murder of rabbinical student Shmuel Matt when he was returning to his dorm? Was this widely reported? What about the shooting murder of 16-year-old Oz Ben-Meir? Was this widely reported? No. What about the daily rocket attacks against Israel originating in Gaza? Are these widely reported? No. Do not be so foolish as to think of this as some conspiracy in which Israel is protected from media outlets. Heres a list of 1,084 people whose murders were not widely reported in any media outlet outside of Israel: <a href="http://www.all4israel.org%5B/url%5D">www.all4israel.org</a></p>
<p>KillerAngel, you say with people having been lost on both sides the peace process will start anew. This is not the case. The barrier to the peace process is Mahmoud Abbas, his not only reluctance to crack down on terrorism, but the support of terrorism. One main complaint against Saddam Hussein was that he gave much money to the families of suicide bombers. Yet Abbas is doing the EXACT same thing. Abbas recently approved laws to give money to the families of killed, wounded, and imprisoned terrorists. Please see: <a href="http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=1905%5B/url%5D">http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=1905</a>. Abbas own party is named Fatah meaning Conquest backwards it is Hataf which means death. Fatah has been fingered in many terrorist attacks and murders.</p>
<p>he's a man thats on his death bed, amazing how so few can even show commen courtesy for that.</p>
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<p>Same could have been said for Yasser Arafat.</p>
<p>I don't mean to intrude, but might you be a Palestinian KillerAngel?</p>
<p>I personally feel sorry for Sharon and Israel. The Jews have suffered so much and they deserve a homeland of their own. Israel is all they have, but there are so many Arab countries that support the Palestinains.
Now, KillerAngel, you say that Sharon was a rabid butcher and all, but was Arafat really an angel? Didn't he ever commit any atrocities?</p>
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<p>No, I am an American.</p>
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<p>Sure they deserve a home, but not by driving out the Palestinians.</p>
<p>Thats the problem I suppose. Israel was the Jew's original home, but they were driven out by Muslims and Christians and the Palestinians would eventually inhabit the land. When the Jews finally come back to it, the Palestinains were in the way.</p>
<p>I can understand the plight and anger of the Palestinians but the fact is is that Israel is the only place where Jews can really be safe and call home. The Palestinains could go to other Arab and Middle Eastern countries to take refuge there, but not the Jews, they'd be brutally slaughtered.</p>
<p>killerangel...the palestenians have time and time again attacked the israelis with the help of other middle easter n countreis..during these open warefares....israelis have always come out in victory...they have given away more land than they have currently...the used to have part of lebanon, egypt, and jordan...part of the land that the palestininas got in 1992 by the oslo peace agreemant was for peace in return...the siraleis only lost land for no more suicide bombers..the fact remains that there have been many attempts...i think sharon has been the best leader for a difficult time and its a shame he is dying....everyone deserves a home....but the israel is one of the only countries that gives up land that they win fairly and even that they win after being attacked...every peace deal has failed...so i think spending time to make sure this one works is msmart...better not rush...plus the sentiment of the palestinas have changed over the years...before most were against a peace deal and pro terrorism (80%) and now it is reversed...</p>
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<p>Do you really think that Palestinians can take shelter at neighboring Muslim countries? If things were that easy, there wouldnt be terrorist attacks in the first place. Peace could have been attained much faster. Do you see Palestinians satisfied with takeover of their land?</p>