Ariel Sharon significant stroke.........

<p>I also feel sorry for Sharon, I'm sure he'll be dead in a day or two. Even if he commited atrocities, he was quite a strong and able leader and Israel will be in trouble without him, Israel has enough trouble on their hands anyways.</p>

<p>Wonder if we'll see Iran strike Israel with a nuclear bomb soon, especially with their extremely conversative leader.</p>

<p>Why can't they take shelter in countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt? Those countries give them a lot of money to finance their attacks against Israel, why can't they take them in??</p>

<p>hellooo, Sharon is was not a good leader at all. Read my previous post. Its time for him to die and be replaced by a more competent leader, and hopefully he wont be another Zionist fanatic.</p>

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<p>Why would they live there? Palestine is their home and they were unfairly driven out. If someone drove out you from your home, wont you do something about it?</p>

<p>The very existence of Israel has it in the crosshairs of many countries and people who would be more than willing to see it reduced to a smoking crater. It needs a strong military and leader to stay alive and I personally feel that Sharon was that leader, but I don't want to get in an argument here, it looks like Sharon's time is up.</p>

<p>Besides, wasn't Israel the original home of the Jews? The Palestinians had moved in when the Jews were foribly removed.</p>

<p>KillerAngler, I'm alittle perplexed, you wrote, "Its time for him to die and be replaced by a more competent leader, and hopefully he wont be another Zionist fanatic."</p>

<p>Is your problem with Sharon that he is nationalistic? If that's the case, do you support Mahmoud Abbas? What about President Bush? Oh wait, scratch the Bush one, you're allowed to be nationalistic about your country, but no one can be nationalistic about theirs, right?</p>

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<p>Exactly the point. The Israelis were there first and unfairly driven out by the Palestinians and other middle eastern countries. And now Israel's doing something about it and you're complaining?</p>
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<p>Sharon was responsible for war crimes and numerous massacres where innocent Palestinans died. He has no mercy for Arab people and could care less if they were were killed by his millitary. Being Zionist is one thing, but being a terrorist is another. He was no better than Arafat.</p>

<p>iller angel...i dont know how amnny times you have been to israel...in my house we get the siraeli newspaper..the new york times..and a palestinian paper...my mom is from israel....what happened in the 1980s with sharon i condon however for the current time i beleive that a strong leader was needed and he was that leader...i can site multiple evidences of my point which will explain how he has been effective...rather than giving into peace initially when the palestininas weren't ready he waited until they were...previously israel has made that mistake and no peace treaty has come out successfully...i feel it is ashame that he is dying for he truly was the last couple of years a necessary, effective and good leader...israle deserves a homeland..and i understand the palestinians claim to the alnd two...all i want is peace truthfully...but you can't make a deal before both are truly ready...i hope the deal with still get passedand i hope that somehow sharon makes it</p>

<p>The people being killed by the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) were terrorists. They were people who were looking to do Israel harm. Did Sharon show mercy to those mruders NO, I thank G-d everyday that mercy was not shown to the terrorists. Do you honestly believe Israel should take the murders of their citizens, not just soldiers, and not do anything? I'm sorry, but you'd be crazy to think that Israel's only re-action to the attacks is digging more graves. Were you against America's war in Afghanistan following 9/11?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39109%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39109&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>KillerAngel, you're angry at Sharon for his involvement in the massacre of innocent Palestinians and other Arabs. But I know that Sharon did not do it in cold blood, he had hatred in his heart for the Arabs that were looking to do his countrymen's harm. This is just like what the Nazis did to the Jews and Muslims to do Hindus in Kashmir. Hatred and anger guides people to kill others different from them and they view their victims as less than human and deserving to die. Its human nature, unfortunatly. Dont lie KillerAngel, I'm sure at one point in your life or even now, you have hatred for a certain group of people and wish death upon them.</p>

<p>Sharon was a strong, able leader and his death will no doubt cause quite a bit of instability in the region for at least a little while. Just like how Saddam was a terrible leader but at least he kept security in Iraq. There may be freedom there now, but it means nothing with all the kidnappings and car bombs now does it?</p>

<p>Sorry, I don't understand the point of what you posted. They did that because he was a terrorist, with clear known ties to terrorist organization and interests. </p>

<p>Are you trying to suggest that maybe Israel didn't allow doctors to see him? Again, you'd be mistaken. Did you forget the fact that Arafat not only was allowed to see a doctor, but LEFT the country for a hospital in France?</p>

<p>The quote in the story of Arafat staying in his compound for 45 years was not from Sharon!!! It clearly says it's from a participant in a meeting. I hate to break it to you, but politics are politics no matter where you are in the world. This unnamed participant could be someone who was looking to slander Sharon in order to further his own cause. </p>

<p>Oh and by the way why are you not answering my questions from previous posts? If you forgot what they were, I will gladly repost them:</p>

<p>1) If you have a problem with Israel defending itself against terror attacks, were you against America's war in Afghanistan following 9/11?
2) You say your problem with Sharon is he is strongly zionistic, i.e. he is nationalistic. Do you have a problem with Mahmoud Abbas? President George Bush? Prime Minister Blair? President Vladimir Putin? Or is your problem with Sharon the fact that his is Israeli, and your merely attempting to rationalize that by saying he is a "zionist fanatic"?</p>

<p>Seeing that I have reposted the questions for you (in case you can't look at the other posts for some reason), I truly see no reason for you not to answer them this time...</p>

<p>LOL, why dont you answer to my post #15?</p>

<p>I noticed that you've quoted Wikipedia several times, not good. Wikipedia is edited by many people, and what you quoted could have been written by someone with a bias towards the Palestinians and against Israel. Although Wikipedia tries hard to keep their articles as neutral as possible, some bias will always seep through.</p>

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<p>Do you know how many editors, administrators etc. there are at Wikipedia? They work together to keep all information accurate. Its nothing like all4israel.com :D</p>

<p>First off, my apologies for not answering them. I assumed that since others had already responded it would be quite redundant for me to respond. But if you'd like me to, I will oblige.</p>

<p>I believe the question directed to my post was, "Are you a Zinonist? How does blame not go to Israel in any shape or form?"</p>

<p>First off, Yes. Yes I am a VERY proud zionistic Jew.
Second, blame does not belong to Israel because they are responding to attacks, as I have said many times. Israel responds by attacking those who attack it. Secondly, there would beno peace process without Israel. Israel has given so much land away, and for what? Dead bodies, that is the only thing we have gotten in return. I don't see any concessions on the side of the Palestinians. The process would grind to a halt if Israel did not make countless concessions and continuously come in to a "peace" agreement trusting the other side, even though the other side has no intention of honoring said agreement.</p>

<p>Now I have answered your question. Answer mine.</p>

<p>Well, I'm a Hindu and have great respect and admiration for the Jewish people and for Israel, long live Israel!! I will agree that Israel always attacks in self defense and has given up so much in return for nothing. This country has so many enemies and trouble on its hands, I feel quite sorry for it, the death of Sharon will only make things worse.</p>

<p>I fail to see the bias of all4israel.org. They are merely showing the pictures of people who died and saying the circumstances of their death.</p>

<p>On a side note, I will not be posting or respondiong to messages until saturday night (it is the Jewish sabbath), do not consider my lack of responses to be a capitulation.</p>

<p>sharon made a mistake with the lebanose if that is what you are refering but they weren't palestinian...
there are so many differences between arafat and sharon
arafat - was a dictator, they may say he was elected, ut please not there was never another election, he supported and funded terrorism, never condoned it truthfully, he funded terrorist schools, when israel tried to get the palestinians to attend schools he objected, he has his five year old children learning to be terrorists, the children have therorefore become vilent, the ythrow rocks and innocent israelis even, and they blinded my cousins firend who was 6 at the time, they swing around the intestines of dead israelis after a suicide attack, they parade around during 9/11 burning american flags, they have done so many other things that are not reported, i have seen them not just read about them, i know i use they for all palestininas but i have met palestininas and was friends with them, however arafat built up this military, actually before israel got there the country and living situation of the palestinians was worse than now, they were much power, didnt have running water, while maybe some terrotories weren't occupied, economically, scoially and politically it was much worse off
sharon - he went after hammas and hezbollah, terrorists, israel shoudl react for the deaths of their innocences, however when israel kills an innocent man by accident it is always condoned, and when they condon the palestinians make fun for it is a sign of weakness they believe, i have never seen an israeli happy after the death of a non-terrorist palestinian, he wanted not to jsut give away the land but wiat until the proper time, he was tough, tougher than most, however the other peace negotiations have failed, israle should have mroe land than currently and it was promised in 1948,
please tell me as amesricans ahve we given back our whole land to the native americans? no, has tebbit become a nation and freed, terroties change leaders, but in fact the sirealis were the first ones there and if the muslims had never destroyed the temple then this might not even be an issue
the fact that you are happy for someone else's death is trully shameful, sharon was a good leader for the time</p>