<p>Sybbie said:</p>
<p>"Let me ask you a question, why was AA the greatest thing since sliced bread when people of color began flocking to schools that they would have not otherwise had gotten into with out it. Asians have been one of the biggest benefactors of AA."</p>
<p>The is absolutely basis in truth for the statement above</p>
<p>Please click on the Parents Forum for a complete discussion:</p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=1592%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=1592</a></p>
<p>There is much information on this issue, but the media does not publicize this issue because it is politically incorrect.</p>
<p>Asian Americans to my knowledge HAVE NEVER received race-based AA in elite
college admissions. They never asked for it, nor they want it or require
it for admissions to Harvard or the elites. Race-based AA discriminates against Asians Americans with de facto quotas limiting their numbers, not increasing their numbers,
no matter what criteria or standards are used for admission EVEN EXCLUDING
SAT SCORES AND GPAs. Asian Americans have all the characteristics necessary
for admission, including sports, special talents, motivation, hard work,
creativity and the overcoming of hardships and economic disadvantage.</p>
<p>Of course if you factor in SAT scores and GPAs Asian Americans will win
hands down without considering other criteria for admissions. What I am
saying is that even if you FACTOR OUT SAT scores and GPAs and use holistic
criteria only, leaving race out as a factor for admissions, Asian Americans
are also disproporrtionately qualified. THEY ARE NOT ONE-DIMENSIONAL
PRE-MED VIOLINIISTS, according to the RACIST stereotypes used by some,
because they are in every field of study and endeavor and in every field of
extracurricular activities on the college campus.There is no truth to this
stereotype. For instance, just look at the writers for the Harvard Crimson
or any other college newspaper. There are hardly ANY Blacks or Latinos as
writers on the college newspaper staffs, but many Asian Americans .Students at Brown even bemoaned this fact. Look at Harvard's 41 varsity sports teams which are
non-contact, such as tennis or gymnastics. Asians are well represented. The
Yale women's team in Gymnastics won the Ivy Championship last year with
their best NATIONALLY ranked female gymnast, Ms. Fong, a Chinese American,and a graduate of St. Ann's School in Brooklyn, NYC, a prestigious day prep ranked as a top feeder for the Ivies by Worth Magazine and the Wall Street Journal. The best tennis player on the Exeter's New England Prep League Championship team was a Chinese American last year which enabled the team to dominate in its league. Andover's best female swimmer on their women's League championship team this year is a Korean born swimmer who qualified for the summer Olympics and enabled the Andover team to dominate female swimming. I could go on and on tto break these racist stereotypes of Asian American students.</p>
<p>We must eliminate race-based admissions. Admissions must be race-neutral.</p>
<p>Asian Americans are required to meet a higher standard of achievement for
admissions and this most highly qualified group are admitted at the lowest
rates compared to very other group, including whites.</p>
<p>Studies (done internally when charges of bias were presented) at Brown and
Stanford have clearly disputed the stereotyped image of an Asian American
applicant as being "one dimensional" with no extracurricular activities
except for music. This image only existed in the biased views of the some
of the admission officers. These studies have shown that there was an
unexplained bias in admissions and in fact, the Asian American group
appeared better prepared by any standards used, yet had only a 60% to 70%
admission rate compared to the white applicant group at Stanford. The
Admissions Dean of Stanford could not explain the disparity, but at least
she admitted that there was one. Many of the heads and admission officers
of the elite schools don't even acknowledge that the problem even exists.
The Asian applicants were better prepared than the white group, yet have a
lower admission rate.</p>
<p>Stanford's Committee on Undergraduate Admissions and Financial Aid
discovered, after an inquiry, that between 1982 and 1985 Asian Americans
were one-third less likely than whites to be offered admission, even though
they were on average better prepared than white applicants. Annual Report
of CUAFA, Stanford University, 1986, reprinted in "Campus Report",
November 12, 1986.</p>
<p>Some admissions officials have complained that Asian Americans tend to be
lacking in extracurricular and personal qualities, which universities
consider along with grades to ensure that they get well-rounded
individuals. But there is no systematic evidence to this; indeed a report
by the Corporation Committee on Minority Affairs (CCMI) at Brown,
established to investigate charges of anti-Asian discrimination, found such
assumptions to be the result of "cultural bias and stereotypes which
prevail in the admissions office." In the early 1980s, these attitudes
contributed to a 14% acceptance rate for Asians, who are on the average the
best qualified applicants to Brown, compared to the other students who
averaged an acceptance rate of 20%. See Report of CCMI, Brown University,
February 1984. Between 1978 and 1986, there was a 430% increase of Asian
Americans applying to Brown, but the number of these students remained
fairly constant. Grace Tsang, "Equal Access of Asian-Americans", "Yale Law
Journal", January 1989, pp. 659-78.'</p>