Asians Are The Underdogs???

<p>Why is it harder for asians to get into a good college and other races have it easy for them? WHY WHY WHY???</p>

<p>I think it is because we are no longer considered a minority</p>

<p>It's because you're no longer a URM. There are a ton of Asians in college.</p>

<p>Asians are still considered URMs at a large majority of the colleges in the U.S. they choose to concentrate on only applying to a few, along with a large # of other asians and as a result, they are knocking each other out of the box.</p>

<p>It is especially hard to get into many California schools, where Asians are nearly always the highest percentage of students.</p>

<p>what about southeast asian?????????......i think the same too...we also become the underdogs</p>

<p>Well. We're technically a URM in the real world. Just not in the college world. Lovely how that works, eh?</p>

<p>The most represented SEA country is Singapore, I believe, though I have seen a lot of Vietnamese students on college websites. If you're from other ASEAN countries, you may a bit of a boost up, but overall Asians aren't URM's at the schools most Asians seem to be applying to.</p>

<p>yes, i agree that sporeans are way overrepresented</p>

<p>cuz asians dominate higher education like no other. The nationwide population of asians is about 4%, whereas at some of the top schools it's about 17%. Go figure.</p>

<p>well... you can consider the WORLD populations, where indians and chinese alone make up 1/3 of the total population</p>

<p>exactly</p>

<p>India is 1/6th of the population. We arent Underreprsented</p>

<p>I'd say because so many asians are the same. I know it sounds crude, but if you look at many applicants</p>

<p>-Math / Science specialty (for ivies often perfect all around)
-Valedictorian
-Violin / Cello player
-Hospital Volunteer
-National Honor Society
-etc</p>

<p>So your competing against "perfection" for a spot. If you look at some ivies, they do admit asians that are below the 25th percentile, do not have amazing hooks, and are considered mediocre. Why? Many times these "weak" asians will be different.</p>

<p>The only reason it isn't as bad for blacks / hispanics is because we have less chance to be a "clone"</p>

<p>Think of it statistically.</p>

<p>You have 10 spots reserved for asian students and hispanic</p>

<p>There are 5 types of students possible</p>

<p>100 asians apply so the chances are there are 20 "clones" and often times these clones have near perfect stats.</p>

<p>30 hispanics apply so only about 6 clones possible for each thus a lower competition standard.</p>

<p>How about an asian kid who's really really into political science but not so much math or science. Would that still be classified as the so called "clones"?</p>

<p>This thread is such a joke - if anything, Asians are the most OVERREPRESENTED racial group in colleges in the US today.</p>

<p>ummm...no. </p>

<p>These are AMERICAN colleges. If anything, they should represent the AMERICAN population. And no, I'm not some hick. Asians are over-represented in terms of American population.</p>

<p>"Asians are still considered URMs at a large majority of the colleges in the U.S. they choose to concentrate on only applying to a few, along with a large # of other asians and as a result, they are knocking each other out of the box."</p>

<p>This is ignored every single time this thread comes up. Every time. No matter what.</p>

<p>There are so many good asians out there that other 'mediocre' asians have harder time getting in...</p>

<p>O btw, I'm Korean and...:</p>

<p>-Math / Science specialty - HELL NO! I hate math and sucked at it. Everybody expected me to be good in it too...
-Valedictorian- Math and Chemistry ruined this already...
-Violin / Cello player- Nah, played piano and flute (and violin long time ago.. but forgot how)
-Hospital Volunteer - No... my volunteer work was mostly at Churches.
-National Honor Society - well everybody gets in this crap.
-etc - Art student?</p>

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<p>im the same as uyulove! (hahhaa love your username)</p>

<p>i'm korean and i hate math/science. i'm not the valedictorian by any means. i used to play piano but quit 4 years ago. i don't like blood and sickness. and my application to NHS was rejected the first time around, haha.</p>

<p>but yeah ok. a lot of asians <em>do</em> fit into the mold you described. just not as indiscriminately as you might think.</p>