<p>i turned down ucla because there were too many asians LOL</p>
<p>Why do people insist upon using a terminal "LOL?"</p>
<p>What does it add to their post?</p>
<p>I just don't get it! :/</p>
<p>I hate being in niche/clique groups...Im indian so I guess my parents expect me to have indian friends, but I usually stay away from that crowd, not out of arrogance but because of the lack of interest in the things they are interested in: bollywood, bhangra etc. I have a couple of indian friends but they are all geeks/nerds engineering types....yes that's my comfort zone. But most of my friends are Viets, Filipinos or Taiwanese (most science/engineering types). I also don't like too many friends...I usually just have 4-5 close friends. I guss Im an introvert/anti-social loser....that's alright. I like it that way. UCLA should be fun I guess :rolleyes:</p>
<p>#1: UCLA IS NO 1 AAU</p>
<p>The defeat of affirmative action in 1996 has produced a sharp rise in the percentage of Asians in the student bodies of top California campuses. Since 1992 when it pulled ahead of UC Berkeley, UCLA has been the top U.S. university in the size of its Asian population. In 1998 it comprised 38% of the undergraduate enrollment, outnumbering Whites at 37%, according to UCLA statistics. The figures for new freshmen in 1998 suggests the Asian percentage will keep rising.
Students identifying themselves as Asians were 37% of the freshman class while 31% identified themselves as White, 10% as Hispanic and 4% as Black. Since affirmative action was killed at the beginning of 1997, there has been a sharp rise in the number of students declining to classify their ethnicity, from about 3.5% of the freshman class in 1996 to 12% in 1998. Allocating those proportionately to the various ethnic categories, the Asian percentage of the freshman class would become 41% and the White percentage, 35%.
The largest campus on the prestigious UC system, with a total student body of 31,000, has seen a dramatic rise in the number of Asians since 1973 when Asians were only 10% of the undergraduate population and Whites were 71%.
The applicant pool for the fall of 1999 suggests that Asians will continue growing as a share of the student body. Whereas the university saw a 9.2% increase in the overall number of applications from 1998, the increase was only 7.1% for African Americans, 3.6% for Hispanics and negligible for Native Americans. With a total of 35,113 freshman applicants, UCLA is arguably America's most popular university. It also enjoys the most private gifts and grants among the 9-campus University of California system, recording over $250 million for 1998.</p>
<p>#2: BERKELEY IS NO 2 AAU</p>
<p>We had recently named UCLA as the Number 1 Asian American University based on the total number of Asians enrolled. A disgruntled Golden Bear wrote to point out that the title really belongs to UC Berkeley because 41% of its overall undergraduate population is Asian with Whites making up only 31%.
The reader has a point. Taking the undergraduate student body as a whole, UC Berkely's stated Asian percentage of 40.9% is higher than UCLA's 38%. What's more, UCB's White percentage is lower than UCLA's 37%, adding other dimensions to the title of "Top Asian American University". But, as with all statistical arguments, the resolution demands clearing up some semantic points.
First, UCLA has a larger undergraduate population, with a total of 23,615 for the 98-99 academic year versus only 21,738 at Cal. UCLA's status as the biggest of the 9-campus UC system has some bearing on the title.
Another semantic point is the terms "Asian" and "Asian American". Berkeley's Asian stats are actually labeled "Asian/Asian American", suggesting that they include foreign Asian students. The figures for UCLA don't include the 700 or so foreign students of whom about 500 are believed to be Asian. Including them would have increased the UCLA Asian undergraduate percentage to 40.5%. Together with UCLA's 8.5% edge in total undergraduate population, UCLA would boast several hundred more Asian students. But we admit that the contest is close and, given the fluctuations over time in student enrollment trends, Cal could easily regain the top spot any quarter.
Our Golden Bear reader feels another fact tips the scale in UC Berkeley's favor -- it's the campus chosen by America's smartest high school grad for 1997, a Chinese American named George Lee. Apparently George had earned the highest scores on 18 AP tests taken during his junior and senior years at the North Hollywood Magnet School and had been recognized personally by Hillary Clinton in October of 1997.
"If UCLA is so great, a smart guy like George would have gone there, especially since it's a lot closer to where his folks live," contends our reader. We can think of several reasons why a student might want to attend school away from home -- reasons we won't mention for fear of scaring parents. Be that as it may, we have duly noted Cal's close runner-up status for the title "Top Asian American University" and will keep an eagle eye out for developments that may justify a ranking change. </p>
<p>#3: ASIANS 58% OF UC IRVINE</p>
<p>Drawing primarily from nearby Asian population centers in affluent Orange and L.A. counties, UC Irvine's student body boasts over twice as many Asian as white students. A combined graduate and undergraduate student population of 17,165 makes UC Irvine the fourth largest of the 9-campus UC system after UCLA, UC Berkeley and UCSD, but its Asian population of about 9,600 (factoring in 1,999 racially undeclared students) puts it a close third to UCLA and UC Berkeley as a contender for Top Asian American University.
The undergraduate portion of UCI's student population totals 14,197, of which 8,079 are declared Asians and 3,060 are declared Whites. 1,143 are undeclared. Allocating the undeclared proportionately among the declared groups adds 670 to the Asian population and 280 to the white population. That makes 61% of the undergraduate student body Asians, with Whites only 23% -- easily the smallest white percentage among the nation's top 25 universities . The Asian population divides among Chinese 32%, Coreans 18%, Filipino, 16%, Vietnamese 13%, Japanese 6%, with 15% comprising Indian, Pakistani and other Asian categories.
UC Irvine is the only UC campus where Asians outnumber Whites even in the graduate division. The combined student population of 17,165 is 58% Asian and 28% White. Current admissions trends suggest the Asian percentage will continue rising to about 61% for the combined population before leveling off. Given the rate at which UC Irvine has been growing in the heart of Orange County's most affluent section, UCI may end up with the Top Asian American University title in 3-5 years. </p>
<p>#4: UC DAVIS IS NO 4 AAU</p>
<p>C Davis is the third largest of the elite 9-campus University of California system with a total enrollment of 24,866. Asian Americans are 37.1% of that number, making UCD the 4th ranked Asian American University after UCLA, UC Berkeley and UC Irvine.
On March 26 we named UC San Diego in the Number 4 slot based on the fact that 37% of its undergraduate enrollment of 17,000 is Asian American. However, current figures show that UC Davis has a larger undergraduate enrollment of 19,343 with a slightly higher Asian American percentage. What's more, due to its large bio-sciences department and medical school, UC Davis's graduate and professional divisions have a larger Asian American percentage (about 35%) than does UC San Diego (about 29%).
Therefore, UC San Diego should have been placed in the Number 5 position.
The UC Davis Asian population is broken down as: Chinese/Chinese American, 14.9%; Filipino/Pilipino, 4.1%; Japanese/Japanese American, 2.1%; Korean/Korean American, 2.4%; Pacific Islander, 0.8%; Other Asian/Southeast Asian, 8.5%; and East Indian/Pakistani 2.3%. The 2.3% difference comes from factoring in a proportionate share of the 5.3% of students whose ethnicity is "unstated".
Based on a similar computation, Whites are 45.1% of UC Davis enrollment.
The Asian percentage would be 2% higher if the 4% identified as foreign students is included in the figures, as Asians typically make up 50-60% of the foreign student enrollments of UC campuses.</p>
<p>#5: UC San Diego Is the NO 5 AAU</p>
<p>espite its status as California's second city, San Diego (pop 2.5 mil) has never been considered an Asian population center on a par with even third-ranked San Jose (1 mil) or fourth-ranked San Francisco (760,000). But UC San Diego in the golf-and-surf resort of La Jolla hosts a fast-growing Asian population that secures its place as yet another Asian American mecca of higher education.
Asians are 41.9% of the current freshman class of 3,600. The total undergraduate population of about 17,000, is 37% Asian (including Filipinos who, for some reason, are counted separately by the university). Whites are 45.2% of the freshman class and about 47% of the undergraduate population. The current year's freshman class is the first selected without affirmative action and represents a 9% jump in Asian and White students.
For the upcoming fall 1999 quarter, UC San Diego pulled in 32,233 freshman applications, a 13.9% jump over 1998. That puts UCSD second behind UCLA's 35,500. UC Berkely, whose prestige has historically ensured it the most, fell to third place, though its enrollees still top the elite UC applicant pool in average GPAs and SAT scores. The 9-campus UC system currently accepts the top 5% of California high school graduates.
These numbers make UC San Diego 4th among the nation's top 25 universities in terms of the total number of Asian students, behind UCLA, UC Berkeley and UC Irvine.</p>
<p>Note the further increase in Asian % in those schools between 1998 (previous post) and 2006 (few posts up).</p>
<p>UCLA - (Usually Caucasion Likely Asian) Or so I've heard. :)</p>
<p>I'm an asian myself. If I had sufficient money to study in east coast, I would not stay in California. Last week when I brought my transcript to ucla, I saw a group of about 30 chinese students were standing on the street. I found it was so annoying. Of course I have no disrepect towards them. All I want is a real college experience with different races. If not, I could have go to university in my own country.</p>
<p>I would have also liked to study in east coast because I have lived there and like it there more than the west coast....if only I had the money</p>
<p>and being asian (indian) myself I have noticed that asians prefer to stay in their own little groups, talking in the own language among themselves and barring entry to outsiders, and I dislike that very much. oh, the irony of diversity.</p>
<p>Wait... you think Asians are the only ethnic group to form their own cliques? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>sorry, forgot the persians :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I was only speaking from my experience (and of asians in general) but I guess it's a characteristic of every ethnicity</p>
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<p>it's a characteristic of every group of people who have things in common. and culture is a big uniter. there is a good amount of ethnic diversity when it comes to friends at UCLA, but there's probably more ethnic-based cliques than not. </p>
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<p>Chinese students as in from China right? the summer is overrun with foreign students from asia. during the school year, you'll see plenty of asian-americans, but definitely not as many asian foreign students.</p>
<p>there's the azn invasion... and then there's the half-azn invasion :)</p>
<p>ucla couldn't possibly has more asians than uci right?</p>
<p>Actually, UCLA has more Asians than UCI in terms of raw population numbers in its larger student body, but UCI has more Asians than UCLA in terms of population concentration. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Based on University of California Fall 2005 demographics:</p>
<p>UCLA: 14,181 (38.1%)
UCI: 12,212 (48.8%)</p>
<p>After reading this post, am I the only asian person to turn down UCI and UCLA for UCSB? However I think it will be an interesting experience for me because for the first time, I won't be surrounded by asians as I have been all of my life. Coming back from orientation, I can say that almost everyone there is nice and outwardly friendly and the location is gorgerous by the way, in addition to the crazy "social scence" (Isla Vista - party central). I think I'm going to have a blast there.</p>
<p>this question has been bugging me for years. Are indians/pakistanis considered in the asian mix? Im sure they are? That kinda taints things. And its sad/funny that every1 assumes that a large asian population means chinese population.</p>
<p>Yes, Indians/Pakistani count as well, being from the Asian subcontinent. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>hondaicivic, I'm Asian and I turned down Irvine for SB, too. so no, you're not the only one.</p>
<p>turning down irvine is understandable but UCLA? are you kidding me? was it money problem or are you just trying to stay away from asians?</p>
<p>Haha, I wanted to stay away from other Asians myself. I know this has been the case for many other Asians too. Until I got into UCLA, I wasn't even seriously considering going to a UC.</p>
<p>But hey, you simply can't reject UCLA. It's UCLA! Seriously, how is that possible? ;)</p>