<p>I've heard that Asian males have the most difficult time applying to college in terms of competition. Is this true?</p>
<p>Unless you’re a minority or have some other hook, you’re going to have a difficult time. I don’t know where you are applying, but it will be extremely difficult to get into HYPSM regardless of your asian ethnicity. I’m not sure where you heard that asian males have the most problems. I’m pretty sure asian females, white males/females have a difficult time as well. That’s just my opinion…</p>
<p>If you are aiming for the top schools, you probably should do these things:</p>
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<li><p>AVOID mentioning pre-med at all costs.</p></li>
<li><p>Write your essays on something distinctly not stereotypically asian (basically avoid talking about piano, tennis, etc. unless you are extremely good at them)</p></li>
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<p>or…</p>
<p>Just shoot for Caltech (which doesn’t have affirmative action) or easier schools to get into</p>
<p>Yup. Affirmative Action really hurts your chances.</p>
<p>Asians at UCB: 40%
Asians at Harvard: 22%</p>
<p>Why not Asian females?</p>
<p>If you’re applying for engineering, there is an obvious advantage in being female, but other than that, I see no reason for Asian males to have a harder time than Asian females.</p>
<p>In general, males tend in outscore females on standardized tests, while females outperform males GPA-wise. Source: silverturtle’s SAT & admissions guide</p>
<p>^^ when we are considering admission to top schools, I think many competitive applicants can get a 4.0 in high school, male or female. So, test scores are the differentiating factor (academically), and with asian males averaging higher test scores, a high test score looks less impressive if from a male.</p>
<p>Just to clarify, what is Saugus trying to prove with those numbers? In UCB, asians are about 10x overrepresented, and in Harvard asians are still about 4-5x overrepresented (relative to U.S. demographics.) Maybe I’m missing the point.</p>
<p>^ UC Berkeley has 18% more Asian population BECAUSE they aren’t allowed to consider race in their admissions.</p>
<p>For engineering, Asian(Chinese and Indian) males have the most difficult time getting accepted.
If you plan to apply to MIT for example, just know that a 2400 4.0 well rounded person will not necessarily get in.</p>
<p>Princeton: 17% Asian/Pacific Islander
Yale: 14% Asian/Pacific Islander
-These are over a year old but you can easily see the difference between UCB(race isn’t considered) and the other schools(race is considered).</p>
<p>^^^^ Yes</p>
<p>but the 2400 4.0 kid will be AT LEAST 6 TIMES more likely than the unhook applicant to get in.</p>
<p>Yes, ivies and most colleges have quotas for everything, but let’s not forget CA has a huge Asian population. Bottom line-Asians are overrepresented at all top schools.</p>
<p>Yes, it will be difficult as an over-represented minority, especially if you’re applying for something “typically Asian” like pre-med.</p>
<p>But what I think will hurt you most is coming from Exeter or Andover (I’m assuming one of the two, given your location), where there will be hooked applicants–legacies up the wazoo, URMs, recruited athletes–that will have things to offer top schools. An unhooked Asian from one of the top preps is going to face an uphill battle.</p>
<p>hahaha its definitely tough, but not impossible. i am an asian male who applied as pre-med (main two essays were about why i wanted to become a doctor, and other about piano), and didn’t have perfect stats (couple of B’s, 2300+, 1550+SATII’s) but still managed to get into top schools. so have faith and just follow your passions. don’t try to game the system.</p>
<p>I think it’s hard if youre going into math, science, or engineering… Unfortunately most of my friends don’t get into top colleges after being hard working (2400 or close, 4.0 unweighted with lots of AP/IB) and honing in skills in their own expertise (junior olympics champ judo, regional champ tennis, national champ chess, state champ ping pong, <about this level of skill) … but someone I know who didn’t even have that great stats seemed to be a shoe in into Stanford… no legacy, but applied to be an ART MAJOR. This is so different from the normal Asian male, especially with the cultural push for maths and sciences, and most students becoming premed or engineering students.</p>
<p>All I can say is… good luck.</p>
<p>I didnt read your location lol.</p>
<p>If you are in the top 30-40% of your class you are set for at least 1 of the HYPSM. I looked over your matriculation. Over 10% of your kids go to Harvard. Like 50% goes to like top 10. </p>
<p>Its hard not to get into a good school when your school sent 12 kids to Harvard, 17 kids to Yale, 7 kids to princeton, 9 kids to stanford, and 5 kids to MIT last year and has a very very very small population. So OP, why you were indeed right. It is time to “Get some.” If OP is in Andover, we should consider that he will be some what a hooked applicant (his parents will have connections at HYPSM- lets not forget all the asians at those colleges).</p>
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<p>Agree completely with stridegumisbest: I’m an Asian attending one of HYPSM who wrote her essay on her love for science. Did not have perfect stats either.</p>
<p>Haha, I’m not Asian, guys. This was purely hypothetical.</p>
<p>In that case you’re in at HYPSM.</p>
<p>I disagree with soothsayerr. If you can spin your essay topic into something interesting, why not do it? Be yourself, not someone made up. If you want to be a doctor, say so. Don’t avoid it because you want to cater to the school. The school ultimately caters to YOU.</p>
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Why are Asian and Pacific Islander put together? I wasn’t aware that the two were the same.</p>
<p>And is there AA against Pacific Islanders anyway?</p>