Asians = still URMs at some top colleges?

<p>Although being Asian is nearly disadvantageous in the college admission process nowadays, would Asians still have an advantage at colleges where the Asian population is less than 10%, such as Colgate (5%)?</p>

<p>There are still many colleges in the USA where Asian students comprise less than 3% of the student population.</p>

<p>Any good Asian student who applies to these schools will have a very good chance of acceptance.</p>

<p>These colleges aren't bad either ( many have top notched academics ).</p>

<p>Problem - many ( I'd suspect most ) Asian parents prefer to push their kids towards the big name schools where they are already OVER-REPRESENTED.</p>

<p>If Ward Connerly had his way in the USA (and not just California ), almost every big name colleges would be like UCLA ( University of Caucasians Lost Among Asians ) or UC Berkeley ( close to half Asian ).</p>

<p>I know that Wake Forest really wants to diversify. They barely have any Asians. You'd be at an advantage there.</p>

<p>Vanderbilt University made a point of mentioning (in a Jan. 2008 press release) that the number of applications from Asians had increased 29% this year. So, I think you can safely assume it might still be a factor in one's favor, and most definitely not a disadvantage.</p>

<p>i am applying to several midwestern LACs, and i know that they have very small asian populations.</p>

<p>"If Ward Connerly had his way in the USA (and not just California ), almost every big name colleges would be like UCLA ( University of Caucasians Lost Among Asians ) or UC Berkeley ( close to half Asian )."</p>

<p>Don't exagerate: Mr. Connerly would never impose his anti-Affirmative action beliefs onto private schools. He's in essence a libertarian, so he would oppose (in general) *all restrictions *on the private sector. Don't hate colorblind admissoins because the results don't portend to those that you would have liked.</p>

<p>And what is the problem with Ward Connerly having his way?</p>

<p>Somone here said Davidson College has less than a 3% Asian pop. Great school where a AA'd be a URM.</p>

<p>Depending on the school - being seen as an Asian URM won't necessarily mean that an Asian applicant will get in w/ lower grades/scores (tho, likely will have a better chance w/ grades/scores similar to that of those generally accepted).</p>

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Problem - many ( I'd suspect most ) Asian parents prefer to push their kids towards the big name schools where they are already OVER-REPRESENTED.

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<p>And Jews or black immigrants from Africa don't (btw, 46% of Asian-American students attend community college - the same % as blacks)?</p>

<p>46% of Blacks attend community college, or 46% of Blacks ( immigrants from Africa ? )who attend college, attend community college?</p>

<p>^ 46% of blacks students (overall) matriculating in higher education attend CC.</p>

<p>I hear Notre Dame wants more Asians.</p>

<p>I am Asian though, and my college counselor said I would make no friends and be miserable at Vanderbilt because it is like a huge country club of ppl who couldn't make it into Duke, and I do hear there's a lot of ethnic-oriented cliques there</p>

<p>Why don't you visit Vanderbilt yourself instead of taking the word of a college counselor who may never have even been there, and is probably about 15 years out of date?</p>

<p>My son is no country club guy, and he didn't even consider applying to Duke. He turned down several higher ranking schools to go to Vanderbilt, for a variety of reasons.</p>

<p>And, by the way, he does have Asian friends. </p>

<p>The Asian student population is still low, less than 10% I think, for undergraduates, but there was a large increase in applications from Asians this year. It is probably lowest in Blair (music) and Peabody (school of education), highest in arts and sciences and in-between in engineering (there are a lot of Malaysian students in engineering; it is some special arrangement with the Malaysian government).</p>

<p>I think your college counselor may be a bit racist, if she/he thinks you will make no friends because you are Asian. Maybe it is because I live in a college town, but my children have never had a shortage of Asian friends, while in high school or in college.</p>

<p>That is one of the most irritating posts I have read in a while, to be honest.</p>

<p>midmo - i agree aznschoolboi22 because Vanderbilt is primarily based on Greek Life. Greek fraternity's usually only allow the same "group" (same-colored skin) people to join their thing.</p>

<p>Therefore, Asian (males) would probably be very miserable at Vandy, sitting in the corner, uninvited to parties, and not getting in on any action whatsoever.</p>

<p>Asians would probably be viewed as the "loser group" (check Asian associations at Vanderbilt), all by them selfs.</p>

<p>In other words, Asian males would be missing out on most of the vandy experience.</p>

<p>Yeah, except most frats aren't really like that. Vandy frats are non-residential, and have open parties, AND only 35-40% of guys are in frats.</p>

<p>Whatever. Go ahead and rip something you have absolutely no idea about.</p>

<p>The percentage of male undergraduates in fraternities at Vanderbilt is no more than 33%, and that number includes many who are completely inactive.</p>

<p>There are many students at Vanderbilt--in fact the majority of students at Vanderbilt--who are not involved with Greek life and have active social lives. Those are the facts.</p>

<p>Prospective students who choose to believe negative stereotypes propagated by people with their own laundry lists of prejudices instead of taking a first hand look for themselves may be losing out on an attractive opportunity. Too bad, really.</p>

<p>No school works for everyone. It is a good idea to investigate your options, academic as well as social. It is a bad idea to take other people's advice if you don't have a very good idea of where they are coming from.</p>

<p>With respect to the college counselor who suggested that Vanderbilt is full of Duke rejects, I have to doubt there are a lot of them. The two states with the most students at Vanderbilt are Tennessee and Texas. The TN kids grow up with great respect for Vanderbilt and I will guess it is their first choice; I see no reason to believe all those TX kids would choose NC over TN. I suspect the counselor knows a few east coast/Atlantic coast kids who did not get into Duke and went to Vanderbilt instead, but I don't believe it is so common. Ask the counselor for some data, rather than loose opinions.</p>

<p>My impression of Vanderbilt is that it is full of kids who are thrilled to be there.</p>

<p>Hmong, Vietnamese, Filipinos, people from Bangladesh, others? These folks are very underrepresented. Asians as a whole are probably underrepresented in the central part of the country, although we have a very good population of Asian-American and Asian students, here at Madison.</p>

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Therefore, Asian (males) would probably be very miserable at Vandy, sitting in the corner, uninvited to parties, and not getting in on any action whatsoever.</p>

<p>In other words, Asian males would be missing out on most of the vandy experience.

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<p>Huh? Stereotype much?</p>

<p>^^^stereotyping, indeed. I live in a midwestern college town with many Asian families associated with the university and the medical centers. I am laughing at the notion that my son's friends from Hong Kong, Taiwan, India, Pakistan, S. Korea, the Philippines, and Burma (Myanmar) would ever be caught sitting in a corner, missing out on the action.</p>

<p>For me, the single most distressing feature of CC is the incessant stereotyping of Asian students and families. These cardboard cut-outs bear no resemblance to the kids I have hosted in my home on many dozens of occasions over the years.</p>