<p>i asked this somewhere else..wanted to get your opinion. haha. since calso is really important for fall admits cuz they have to choose their schedule...do you think its that important for spring admits? i dont want to have to pay the money (yes yes im a cheapo!!!)...if its not that important =/</p>
<p>hmmmm on a tangent...
what classes did you take when you were in FPF?
how was it?
any classes you'd recommend?</p>
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<p>So as you might know, CalSO for FPF doesn't help you pick classes. I don't remember if turning your class form early helps you get the class. Actually, I think it does. Still, unless you turn it in really late, chances are that you'll get the classes you want. So I'd say, don't worry too much about turning it in as soon as possible, but don't procrastinate too much.</p>
<p> [quote=cathersx3] i asked this somewhere else..wanted to get your opinion. haha. since calso is really important for fall admits cuz they have to choose their schedule...do you think its that important for spring admits? i dont want to have to pay the money (yes yes im a cheapo!!!)...if its not that important =/
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<p>Well, I think it's a really fun experience and I really encourage you to do it. You get to meet FPF students, tour the campus, get to know Berkeley traditions, get to know school policies, etc. I think during welcome week there's a one day "CalSO" for those who didn't come, and it's fine if you don't go to FPF CalSO, but I think it's a fun experience. Plus, it's nice to get into college already knowing a few people from CalSO. But I mean, I know people who didn't go and they didn't feel like they missed out on much.</p>
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<p>I'll tell you about the classes I took and then some classes I've heard about.</p>
<p>Math 1B: I took this with Bourgoin and he's a great guy. I don't think he's teaching it this year though (too bad). Smith should be the one teaching this year (he also taught last year) and he's pretty good too. Math 1B is definitely easier at FPF than on campus so this is the one class that I really encourage you to take, the exception being if you need 2 semesters of calculus for your major and absolutely do not want to do multivariable calculus, then you'd better take Math 1A / 16A your first semester.</p>
<p>English 1B: I had it with Lani (Melani? Forget her name but she calls herself Lani). Very nice lady and the class was really a joke. We read about 5-6 books and discuss them in class (that's pretty much the whole class, discussing books). You could just not read the books and have others talk. There are also 3 papers but they're easy. The other professors may be harder but in general I think this is an easy class.</p>
<p>Psychology 1: I had this with Mangan and he's probably teaching it this year. He's kinda the crazy genius guy. Spoke way too fast for his own good. Lectures were next to useless and the tests are easy if you memorize the textbook. Class was entertaining though.</p>
<p>EPS 80: I had this with Hassler. Cool guy, very interesting class. A lot of work for a 2-unit class, but very interesting material. You also get to take a field trip.</p>
<p>Other classes I've heard about:</p>
<p>Classics: a lot of reading and you have to write papers. The reading is pretty dry (in my opinion).</p>
<p>Astrology: reading and writing papers, no math involved.</p>
<p>Anthropology: reading and writing papers. People complained about this class.</p>
<p>Integrative Biology: err, there's one about dinosaurs. People seemed to like this class but it's not really useful for fulfilling any pre-reqs.</p>
<p>Math 1A / 32: easy, just like Math 1B.</p>
<p>Hmm that's all I can think of right now.</p>
<p>you didn't already fulfill math/english requirements before FPF? or did you chose to take a math and english class?
because i think according to what i've seen online i already met my english and quantitative reasoning requirements but i'm not sure if i still have to take math/english...
if i don't need to i'm going to be taking 4 breadth classes in FPF; asian american studies, geology 80, philosophy 2, and poli sci 2.
do you happen to know anything about those classes?
thanks in advance!</p>
<p>Did you get a 5 on the AP Lit exam? If not you probably need to take at least English 1B. Did you get a 5 on the AP Calculus BC test? If not you can't test out of Math 1B, so if you need math for pre-reqs for a major, you'll at least need to take Math 1B. Geology 80 might be EPS 80 that I mentioned. It's actually Environmental and Planetary Science 80, but it's really just geology. Poli sci I hear isn't too hard, and you write papers. Philosophy probably has you reading at least something written by Aristotle or Plato, and you also write papers.</p>
<p>I hear History 7B is pretty easy. I think it's just American History from the civil war to the present, so it's largely a repeat of AP US History. Also I think it fulfills the AC requirement so that's a big plus.</p>
<p>Is taking 12 units during the first semester a reasonable amount? Since 13 units is the minimum to be considered a full-time student, will my part time status give me any disadvantages?</p>
<p>There are certain things that require you to be a full-time student. For example, your financial aid will be affected if you're part-time. There are probably others but I'm not familiar with them (since I almost never hear someone do part-time). If you're going to take 12 units, might as well take 13. I think 13 - 15 is a good amount for your first semester.</p>
<p>Normally take a one-unit seminar or decal to move from 12 to 13 units. Seminars are usually low workload classes where the professor gets the class to discuss something they find interesting.</p>
<p>In FPF I don't believe it matters if you don't take a full load, but you still pay the same amount of money.</p>
<p>I would definitely be into taking a DeCal class... but I'm FPF so I can't my first semester... I've already squared away 3 of my breadth requirements from CC classes I've already taken... so it's not like I need to worry about falling behind.</p>
<p>I'm looking at the course schedule for FPF this year and I see that each course has multiple discussion times, but I am only required to go to one of them. Will I get to choose which one I want to go too? Or will they assign it to me?</p>
<p>I know you can choose which lecture you want on the course request form, but I'm not sure about discussions. If you don't get to choose them on the form then they assign it.</p>
<p>We can sign up for classes before CalSO, right? Because on the CalSO website, it says that you'll receive academic advice and an advisor code that you need to sign up for classes. Has anyone here signed up for classes already?</p>
<p>I'm a transfer admitted for Spring and I'm wondering how this affects transfer students. I'm worried how it will affect the time I graduate because there are certain courses that are only offered in the fall that I need to take as a prerequisite to a spring course. Anyone have information on this? What is the limit a student can stay at Berkeley, is it for time or units, and if units, is it the units taken at Berkeley or total number of college units? Any information would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Almost forgot, is there any way to appeal for fall admit? I'm a linguistics major which is not impacted (but was judged in the same group as psychology and economics), and the reason Berkeley gave for spring admits is that there are too many people they like but they would take up space in courses for fall admits.</p>
<p>Uhh, I didn't even know they have spring admission for transfers. In any case, there are certain courses that are only offered in the fall and it sucks that you can't take them. I would probably check and see if they're offered in the summer, and then maybe you can take them over the summer and then the following course in the fall of your senior year. There's a unit cap at Berkeley that says if you were to stay over 8 semesters, the semester in which you exceed 130 units will be your last. What this means is say you accumulated 115 units after 8 semesters. Your 9th semester, you take 13 units, bringing you up to 128. Your 10th semester, you take 14 units, bringing you up to 142. Since your 10th semester is the semester in which you reached/exceeded 130, that's your last semester, and you can't take anymore. This is the policy for L&S. For CoE and Haas it's more strict, and other colleges might have other policies. Anyway, if you still have not finished your coursework after the semester in which you exceed 130 units, you can petition or take classes at the University Extension to finish them.</p>
<p>I think there is a way to appeal for fall admit but it's very difficult, even if you're not in an impacted major.</p>
<p>well......including all the airfares...the CalSo is actually more than a little expensive for me. So if the CalSo for FPF doesn't help us signing up for classes, does it still make a difference to go in terms of acdemic assistance?</p>
<p>By the way, I also want to thank you for starting this thread, I read through most of the questions, and they really helped me solving puzzles of this whole entire spring admits thing. While most importantly, I got enrolled in FPF because of the info on this thread!</p>
<p>Hmm...let me put it to you this way: you won't receive any academic assistance at CalSO. It's really just for you to familiarize yourself with the university and the campus a little, and to make a few friends. I don't think you miss out on much if you don't, but it's fun if you do go.</p>
<p>Glad you found this thread helpful. Hope you enjoy FPF. :)</p>
<p>for r&c...</p>
<p>i test out of college writing R1A because i got an 800 (over 680) on the writing section of the SAT</p>
<p>i can't take english R1B because i haven't taken and am not signed up to take the ap tests that you need a 4 or 5 on to take english R1B</p>
<p>...so that leaves me with rhetoric R1A or english R1A. what are each of these classes like, what are the differences between them, and which one do you recommend that i take?</p>
<p>sorry, a couple more questions:
1. what does "AC" stand for?
2. i got an 800 on both the math section of the SATI and the math level 2 of the SATII, so does that mean that i am not taking a math course in fpf? and if i do not take a math course, does that mean i am taking 3-4 breadth courses? what exactly is a breadth course btw and why is it called that?</p>
<p>haha, just found the site that talks about breadth courses
so these 7 breadth courses i take have to be done in four years or one? also, does only one of these seven breadth courses you take have to be AC?</p>