<p>Dbate, I usually find your posts very insightful, but how can you create a list of the top prestigious schools and not even mention Dartmouth? UCLA, Berkeley, and Emory?! Please.</p>
<p>I’d have to agree with Dbate here about the status of northwestern. It is a great school, but not prestigious…I didn’t know about northwestern until I was a senior and really started researching colleges. hate me. :PPPPPPP</p>
<p>From where I’m from, I can tell you that few consider Duke to be prestigious (they think its a big jock school because of its basketball). Most people have never heard of Emory, and Penn is often confused with Penn State. They also consider UCLA to be equivalent with UM. I’m not going to debate what schools are prestigious and which aren’t, but I will say that you can only be certain that Northwestern isn’t prestigious in your eyes. It may be in others. You alone do not have the right to say which schools are prestigious and which aren’t.</p>
<p>99% of people in this country haven’t ever heard of Andover or Exeter. That doesn’t make them not prestigious schools.</p>
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<p>Do you often find yourself acting in a manner that does not befit your age?</p>
<p>It’s like comparing cars… mercedes vs. toyota. the toyota may be a better, more reliable, efficient car, but it’s still NOT a mercedes</p>
<p>yeah, because MOST people have no idea that elite prep secondary schools EXIST</p>
<p>but everyone knows about harvard, yale, princeton.</p>
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<p>Perhaps it is a generational thing or perhaps Oregon, like Texas, is to far removed from the midwest to know about the “prestige” of Northwestern. Or maybe today’s Ivy-caliber kids have a different opinion on what constitutes prestige.</p>
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<p>That list was entirely from my prospective. I didn’t know Dartmouth was an Ivy, much less heard of it, until I started applying to colleges. When you go to a school that only sends kids to the local state school no one is really gunning to get into Dartmouth. Two years ago a kid got into Oxford and no one said a thing, but when I got into Yale almost half my class knew.</p>
<p>I think that people try to throw in “lower tier” schools into the higher tier mix to make up for their insecurities of not being able to attend HYPMS. If everyone was at the elite elite schools, then schools like northwestern, duke, emory, etc, wouldn’t ever reach high rankings.</p>
<p>^^True. It is kind of sad. I mean is it that hard to get into an Ivy? If you don’t make the cut just accept that and don’t try to include these random schools. You don’t see G’town and Berkeley clamoring to be included.</p>
<p>yes, dbate is is THAT hard to get into an ivy. a school’s prestige is defined by its shock factor. </p>
<p>i never come across anyone in my daily life that goes to HYPM. if i hear about someone who goes to HYPM who is NOT from the internet, my jaw drops and i stop what I’m doing for a minute to stare at that person in awe.</p>
<p>telling someone that you take political science at Yale is like telling someone that you take physics at MIT. it’s just SHOCKING </p>
<p>on the other hand, if i know someone who goes to…washu or hopkins or emory or whatever, it just rolls off of my shoulders</p>
<p>Oh, I guess it is becoming too common to me. Everyone here got into multiple ivies to the point that I started to think it was easy.</p>
<p>I don’t know about the political science thing, poli sci here is the joke major. In fact, many people who are majoring in poli sci have a real major to accompany it. For me I will go either bio+poli sci or BiomedE+poli sci. Others do math+ or international studies+.</p>
<p>Also, didn’t you get a likely from Columbia?</p>
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<p>Haha, by this time next year when you hear someone goes to HYP it will just roll off your shoulders.</p>
<p>Never heard of Yale University before either but definitely heard of Yale Lock. The only time I heard of Yale University was that infamous case of the Asian graduate student who got stuffed inside the wall. Someone told me that Yale’s student body is a quarter legacy, a quarter developmental kids, a quarter minority (mostly smart Asian to balance off the first two quarter) and a quarter above average kids.</p>
<p>Yeah that is not ture. Although a certain Smillow girl got in because her uncle donated a building, most people here are just average smart kids. We are only about 13% legacy and maybe 2 or 3% developmental, but there are a TON of athletes at Yale. SOOOOO many athletes, they are about 15% of the population if not more. In my suite along 3 out of 6 are athletes, and one of them did not even have to write essays to get into the university.</p>
<p>Well, not necessarily political science, but when you think Yale, you think of presidents like Bush and such…it’s the whole being affiliated with powerful people thing…</p>
<p>and MIT is at the opposite spectrum…einstein types. </p>
<p>yeppers I did get a likely letter from columbia! =))))</p>
<p>I thought getting into one ivy was a HUGE accomplishment until I came on cc. In my area, it’s very typical for good applicants to get rejected from ivies and end up at safety schools.</p>
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<p>Haha, everyday I wake up I look at Skull and Bones out my window. Btw if you get into Yale DO NOT JOIN Skull and Bones join Scroll and Key instead. You will learn why if you are accepted. </p>
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<p>I have that same impression, lol!</p>
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<p>MAJOR congrats!!!</p>
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<p>For most places it is a HUGE accomplishment. I was the only one accepted to ANY ivy from my school, but some of my friends here went to schools where as many as 30 people got into Princeton in one year.</p>
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<p>Oregon isn’t too far removed from the Midwest to know about the prestige of Northwestern, and neither should be Texas.</p>
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<p>I’ve heard the latter is all athletes, while the former is not. At any rate, I’ve been accepted and haven’t heard why this is case; perhaps you should enlighten me through PM.</p>
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<p>For basketball, that is completely correct. We can’t really trash talk you any other way considering how terrible our team is, so we resort to the one arena we do have you slightly beat in. For football, at least this year, it was because of the factors I mentioned earlier; we weren’t very happy with the officiating at the end of the game, nor that Cornell benefited from it, and responded accordingly.</p>
<p>Also, pigs, are you actually in Oregon now?</p>
<p>With that said, I’m glad you take it in good fun.</p>
<p>Just a bit of geographical diversity thrown in here: I live in Utah, arguably one of THE most remote states ever, and I definitely know about Northwestern.
Dbate, I don’t know if you did Policy in high school, but if you did, then you should DEFINITELY have heard of their debate team. It’s amazing, up there with USC and Berkeley. They also have a - I believe it’s 7 or 9 week? - summer debate camp that’s VERY selective and well-known across the circuit.</p>
<p>As for the actual school itself, I consider it to be a great school, even if we’re just going off lay prestige. Okay, it might not have the “wow” factor, as you guys call it, that HYPMS does, but its reputation is certainly NOT constrained to the Midwest, and is actually far more reaching than Dbate and pigs make it sound. Just because you guys haven’t (hadn’t) heard of it in your territory isn’t, I don’t think, a reason to generalize for everyone else across the country.</p>
<p>Emory and Duke should NOT be on there.
This is your southern bias showing.</p>
<p>And Berkeley and UCLA? Please. Just because YOU hadn’t heard of UChicago or Northwestern, (or even Caltech for that matter) doesn’t mean that the “rest of the nation” is ignorant.</p>
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<p>I did LD and extemp so I am unfamiliar with the prowess of the Northwestern policy team.</p>