<p>hey post what u think are the average-to-ideal stats of a upenn regular admission to the college of arts and sci (haha then ppl can stop asking for their chances and can just refer to this). include, obviously, sat is and iis (iic, chem or physics or bio, and writing), gpa, class rank, ec’s, awards, research experience, work experience, community activities, school activities, and any others that i haven’t covered. excellent.</p>
<p>Everything is subjective. People with 1600's and 3 800's get rejected.</p>
<p>...hence the whole load of ec's....w/e...dumb thread--on its way to the ends of the forum archives already lol. i'll just talk to ppl and find out for myself.</p>
<p>I'm guess- ~1470 SAT, 750-770 SAT II's, top 2-3%, some leadership at clubs, and one of the following: research exp, job, started a project (somethign to make them from the others)</p>
<p>awards: state level, little if any nat'l level</p>
<p>Depends. Lower scores can be override with nice AP scores and nice ECs, and vice versa. Definitely hardest courseload. top 5%.</p>
<p>1540....780 sat iis.....top 4%....student gov....a culture club....good balance of math/humanities....plays a sport (not recruited).....</p>
<p>dostoyevsky, you're def overrating, the SAT median is like 1410-1510 or something</p>
<p>1470..... 720 sat ii average.... top 6 percent....most rigorous curriculum.... 2 sports....job....diverse ecs.....from philadelphia.....</p>
<p>please don't just post your own stats. we already know them from your constant flaunting.</p>
<p>i think he was just kidding =p~</p>
<p>do they give preference to pa residents? it's not a state u, !i know!, but i was wondering....haha u guessed it, i'm from pa....i'd imagine not so, tho...</p>
<p>dusk - i know that the 1540 may be a bit too high, BUT i think that the average applicant (white dude from say new york) needs a higher score than 1480 to be "comfortable"....thats my view of reality (and my view coutns for absolutely NOTHING)</p>
<p>papucutta.... they give hella preference to philadelphia students. PA students I think may get a slight boost but I'm not sure. They have to give preference to philly bois because philly gives them some money for stuff I think.</p>
<p>dosto... i agree that the average applicant (white kid from east coast) needs 1500 or higher to be comfortable.</p>
<p>How about from the West Coast? Does that help a lot?</p>
<p>Also, what do you guys think if I only took 2 out of 3 Ap's offered. Will that be a big deal?</p>
<p>choco - its sad how much harder it is for white ppl in the northeast/atlantic region....i know that if i lived in oklahoma, i would be in at EVERY single school....its tough to accept that stuff is muchhh harder for me for reasons not under my control....o well, as my crazy devout christian friend likes to say "that's life"</p>
<p>At the same time dostoyevsky, if you were in oklahoma you wouldn't have had access to the educational opportunities that I assume you did have, translating to lower SAT scores and probably less EC's well. For the most part, it evens out.</p>
<p>ilovepoker - one would htink you are generally right....BUT in my case, you are not....my school blows (we learn next to nothing).....i never had an SAT tutor or course or nythign like that; as long as there was a book store that had 10 REAL in Ok, i would be set.....honestly, i dont see the diff between who i would be academically-speaking if i lived in Ok rather than NJ (actually, i wouldnt have the same EC opportunities, but that doesnt translate into much since i dont learn that much from my ECs)</p>
<p>Haha since when did it matter if we learn anything from our EC's? We're trying to get into college people.</p>
<p>well yea....but im just sayign that ECs would be the only major diff in my academic-related life if i were to live in Ok.....and ECs do nothing to change any of my other "stats"; so basically, id be a wayyy stronger applicant if i lived in Ok (even with less ECs) than the current me (NJ)....even then, it would be WAYYY easier to win "state" awards in Ok than NJ, so that goes even farther to prove my point....something out of your control like location may not influence your high school experience at all but will have a HUGE affect on your college admission chances....see?</p>