<p>Very helpful thread, thanks. Any numbers on the schools above? Any advice for my daughter? She wants to be what I call a "through and through" actor, and so was only going to apply to bfa programs for Acting. But so many people have questioned her decision because of her singing and acting ability that she is torn.
Can you audition for both programs in some schools?</p>
<p>Yes, some schools allow you to do that, including CMU and Syracuse.</p>
<p>Ithaca is another one, as is New York University and UArts. At schools such as Syracuse, Ithaca, CMU, UArts and NYU, the candidate basically does a musical theater audition but makes clear (by way of a sheet filled out at the audition). The auditor(s) then decide whether to offer the candidate admission to acting, musical theater or not at all. </p>
<p>University of Michigan is an exception, because there, students who want to be considered for acting and musical theater have to do two separate auditions and go through two admissions processes.</p>
<p>We allow students to audition for both at FSU, although it is two separate auditions. (We have one weekend when Acting is on a Friday and MT on Saturday for those tudents who want to be considered for both.)</p>
<p>Does anyone know the numbers for Marymount Manhattan? How many do they audition and how many do they accept?</p>
<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>I'm currently a Junior at Berklee College of Music in Boston, Majoring in Vocal performance. I am looking into Steinhardt at NYU for their graduate program in getting a Master of Music with a concentrate on Musical Theater, how hard is it to get into the program, I'm coming from one of the best music schools, but not for theater. My Gpa is a 3.2, but I have a lot of performing experience, does anyone know anything about the audition process, or do you have to take the GRE'S or do they look at your sat's or high schools grades? I'm not a straight A student, just average, what are my chances of getting in? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated thanks!</p>
<p>Liz,</p>
<p>Here is Steinhardt's audition info which is found on their website. It's a good idea to become familiar with everything on their website so I do recommend that you have a look.</p>
<p>Five (5) Contrasting Songs: You must prepare five songs for your audition that you are able to sing from memory which display a variety of styles and the breadth of your vocal and musical skills. Select two of the songs to sing first. One of your selections must be classical. After you have sung your two selections the Committee will make requests from your list. You will probably not be asked to sing all five songs. Each selection should be no longer than five minutes, but you are free to sing a short section of a longer song or aria.</p>
<p>While some movement may be naturally incorporated into your songs, do not choreograph or over-stage your selections. The first criterion for acceptance into this program is vocal ability and vocal potential. We need to determine how you sing, not how you perform.</p>
<p>Two (2) Monologues Performed from Memory: You must prepare two monologues, one classical and one contemporary. Each of your monologues should be no longer than two minutes.</p>
<p>Select monologues that allow you to make strong acting choices. A monologue should take you and your audience on a "journey." Your character should be somehow different at the end than he/she was at the beginning. Pick age-appropriate material, and do not do your monologue with any kind of accent or dialect. We need to hear standard speech with good English diction.</p>
<p>Sight-Reading: Testing your ability to sight-sing helps us determine your basic musicianship skills. You will be provided with a piece of music and will be expected to sing the melodic line. Sight-singing is a skill that singers develop through a process of ear-training. You can, and should, practice this before your audition. Music theory, music history, and keyboard performance are essential elements in any music curriculum. Any study and preparation in these areas will also be a great advantage to you.</p>
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<p>What do I bring to my audition?</p>
<p>Picture and R</p>
<p>Liz,</p>
<p>What can you tell us about the Berklee program? While it is not a school we were looking at it recently came to our attention for vocal performance and it seems to have some sort of musical theater componenet that is unclear. It might be a program that students want to investigate as an alternative to a MT program while keeping MT in their lives. Also with the exchange program that Berklee has with other local colleges, do students add in acting classes this way?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Thank you everyone for the great info! Here is a post I made yesterday also that may help:</p>
<p>I'm currently a Junior at Berklee College of Music in Boston, majoring in Vocal Performance. I like Berklee because while it is a contemporary music school, we are still required to take classes in classical performance and composition. If you are thinking to come to Berklee just to perform or study music production and engineering you are wrong, cause you still have to take a total of 4 semesters in Ear Training, Harmony, Arranging, Counterpoint, Traditional Harmony, History of Western Music and Conducting. Also to receive a B.M you are required to take liberal arts classes such as English, Western Civilization, Art History and science. As well as music technology classes. When applying to colleges I knew I wanted to go to a music conservatory but I was torn between, contemporary music, musical theater, and classical/opera. I had gone to the Berklee summer 5 week programs for 2 years in a row and had already fallen in love with the school, and I applied early decision and was accepted early decision. It turned out I wasn't accepted to any of the schools I had applied to for Classical/Opera (MSM, Eastman, NEC, Mannes). And I finally decided I didn't want to major in Musical Theater undergrad, that I wanted a B.M in Performance. I think Berklee has been a great fit, obiviously there are some pros and cons about the school, but I think the best thing about Berklee is that there is so much, you can take classes ranging in all genres from Jazz, Rock, Country, Classical, Reggae, R&B etc. So I feel like in my 3 years at Berklee I have become a more rounded performer rather just being proficient in one genre, which is hard to get work in these days. Also Berklee has great business classes, I have learned so much about the industry about publishing your music, owning your own studio/record label/radio station and also information about music software programs, mics and pa systems. These are all required courses. I don't think I would have learned this info elsewhere. Also Berklee is one of the only schools with real live recording studios, I have had the chance for 2 semesters in a row now to have classes in the recording studios, to work on demos, jingles and background singing. I geuss the one thing I wish Berklee had was a Musical Theater Major, the majors Berklee offers are Performance, Music Education, Music Synthesis, Music Business, Music Production and Engineering, Composition, Jazz Composition, Songwriting, Professional Music, Film Scoring, Contemporary writing and Production. But no musical theater, we do have theater classes, but I geuss I wished Berklee had a musical theater as a major as well as a graduate school. Although for musical theater classes there are many teachers who have much expereince in musical theater, as well as students. Some of the theater classes Berklee offers are Theater Workshop, Acting skills for the vocalist, audition workshop and preperation, scriptwriting for film, tv, and the stage, musical theater orchestra, musical theater composition. Berklee is also part of the Pro- Arts Consotrium along with Boston Conservatory, Emerson where if you are a student at any one of those schools you can take classes at each of the schools for free or for credit, you can also use their facilities as well such as their libraries. I'm now looking at grad schools I'm thinking about Steinhardt at NYU and Boston Conservatory for Musical Theater, I'm not sure how competitive those programs are, my grades were horrible in HS and so were my sat's, and in college I have a 3.2 but I have a pretty great performance resume. For anyone applying to berklee, I would def reccomend coming to visit the school, take one of the summer programs, there are many to choose from such as the 5 week summer intensive program for all styles, and all instruments. Guitar sessions, gospel week, percussion week and the performance program are also great 1 week programs in the summer. I think going to the summer programs really helped me get my foot in the door with the coursework and the teachers. Berklee now requires everyone auditions, and in your application they want to see that you've been working on your theory, so study up on your music theory, take an ap music theory class at your high school, or buy some of the books berklee uses from berkleepress.com, the only negative things about berklee is that most of the teachers at the school graduated from berklee so it's kind of the same crew of people but we have many greatly known teachers at the school such as Livingston Taylor, Joe Lovano etc. Also, it is very expensive and like any school in the city housing is very limited, they do claim to have all this money in scholarships, but I have applied 7 times for a scholarship and have recieved nothing! Hope this all helps if you are thinking about applying to berklee, let me know if you have any other questions, or any advice for me on what my chances are getting into NYU'S steinhardt or Boston Conservatory for Grad school!</p>
<p>My D is in Steinhardt as an undergraduate in VP, specializing in MT. One thing that you should be aware of is that the vocal instruction in Steinhardt is classically based whether you are specializing in classical voice or music theatre. Steinhardt's vocal instructor's are primarlily classical singers who teach both classical voice and music theatre. For my daughter, that type of instruction is a real plus, but if you are coming from a more contemporary background, you may find it to be a different approach.</p>
<p>Not sure if you were aware that these programs also offer MM or MFA in Musical Theatre. </p>
<p>Arizona State University (MM)
Oklahoma City University (MM)
San Diego State University (MFA)
University of Central Florida (MFA)
University of Montana (MM)
University of Nevada, Las Vegas (MFA)</p>
<p>As tough as these admit numbers are, I know a lot of people looking for these stats. This thread can be helpful if you want to know the numbers of students auditioning vs. accepted. Keep in mind this was last year, I don't know how this year will differ. Perhaps someone wants to update the list for Fall 2009.</p>
<p>When visiting Wright State University (Dayton) this year, we were told that their typical MT class is about 14-16 with approx 300 applicants</p>
<p>Remember that when you obtain this information, that the number accepted is not the same as the size of the class. Typically, at most programs, more are accepted than spots available. Thus if you examine the admit rate, you need to use the number of acceptances, not the number of slots available.</p>
<p>racmom I was also wondering about MMC as well as UMiami.. does anyone know audition/acceptance numbers for these?</p>
<p>zippadeedo12 - I was just speaking with UMiami admission counselor. She said they auditioned between 150 and 200 this year and they take about 15 musical theater students. When we were at Marymount for the audition, the man speaking said they see about 800 for the theater dept. but I don't think that was only for MT but for the entire theater program. Yesterday at their open house for admitted students they said they take 30 MT students.</p>
<p>Please try to remember that the number of students in the class is NOT equal to the number they accept. They accept MORE than that number to yield that number. For instance, I know kids who have been accepted to MM who chose to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>Sorry, I should have stated this. She said they accept 30 to get the 15.</p>
<p>I was waitlisted at Miami and Michigan... Does that mean they look at an additional
10? So Miami would waitlist 20? and accept 30 to get to 15</p>
<p>Was wondering if there are reputed MT and / or classical Voice programs at any of the Ivies?</p>