<p>I agree with the other moms about the possiblity that 'laziness' ( for lack of a better word) in hs tends to predict the same for college. However, in my case it was the opposite. I had a very low GPA ( 2.9 or 3.0) and graduated at the top of my class in college. For whatever reason, I just didn't give a hoot in hs...and in college, I suddenly did! I think there might be more of us out there than suspected :)</p>
<p>i had a 1400 SAT and 3.5 gpa, im in the top 50% of my class but BARELY. if like one person gets expelled, im out of top 50% lol. u think i have any chances at places like Hopkins or Case Western? i dont have any EC's (at all), and only real hook is tht im egyptian, dunno if tht'd be a hook. so yea, i guess i fit the bill as high SAT, decent-low grades compared to other ppl who have 1400's.</p>
<p>Thanks jeunger :) NSMom was starting to make me worried. I've been far more lazy than I should in high school, and I was starting to wonder if that was just the way I am, and if I would have no hope in college... I guess I just hope it's the type of atmosphere in which I would thrive. I guess I'll find out! I think it's difficult to generalize; there are so many people who live their lives in so many different ways with different goals.</p>
<p>UCLA does realize potential as some previous poster alluded to. My brother got in with 3.3 UW, 1400, 800 2c, 750 writing, 700 lit.....andithink the fact that he got 5 on calc bc, and 800 on 2c said he could handle math PLus (with good ec's......national awards in journalism, aca deca, mocktrial, high school b-ball, track, and cross country, and other coool stuff)</p>
<p>I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one. 1420 but a 2.8, 710/720/760 on SATIIs Writ/IIc/USHist. I've already been deferred by a school and rejected from another. ADHD is a horrible pain in the ass, because sometimes there's just no way to focus on anything, but it mostly affects homework like the endlessly pointless worksheets and whatnot, and the drugs are pretty awful - anything that makes you lose 20 pounds in 2 weeks can't be that healthy for you, can it? Hopefully I'll still get into some schools regular decision, as I do have a 4.0 at the local community college while taking classes concurrently. </p>
<p>Then again, our secondary school system, at least the public one, is in desperate need of a lift, as I don't think I've learned anything at all in the almost four years in high school. For more information, read anything by John Taylor Gatto. He's pretty extreme on some of the solutions, but his observations are spot on.</p>
<p>hey torstein, where did you apply?</p>
<p>I was rejected by Pitzer and deferred by Bennington, and just last week I turned in my EA app for Marlboro. I also applied to Sarah Lawrence as a huge reach and Cal State Long Beach as my safety. All else fails - community college here I come.</p>
<p>torstein - my S also applied to CSULB</p>
<p>Cool. I live about 10 minutes from the campus and it's pretty much a shoo-in for everyone who can graduate with a 2.5 or above from my school. They have a great program for students with ADHD, something like early class registration and extra time for tests and whatnot.</p>
<p>This thread is very reassuring... the best of luck to everyone who's applying/ had applied!</p>
<p>Torstein - thanks for the info about the special programs at CSULB - sounds like you have some of the same issues with homework as my S has had - he just cannot focus on "busywork" when he already has a total grasp of the concepts ( for example, he squeaked by with a D in AP US History, but got a 4 on the AP Exam!! failed his math course 2nd semester last year...but got 720 on the SAT II Math 2C)</p>
<p>Good luck with CSULB and all the others! Do you know when CSULB send out their acceptances?</p>
<p>Let's bump this up and give more people some encouragement.</p>
<p>Nobody I know has gotten anything from CSULB yet, so I think it might be closer to April. I know that Fullerton and Northridge already sent out some notifications though.</p>
<p>What would be awesome is if I could I add my stats to this thread 2-3 months from now...I shall wait and see</p>
<p>S was accepted to CSULB and Seton Hall University in NJ...hope this gives you guys hope.</p>
<p>I came back to this thread after a conversation with a mom whose son fits this title. Curious about how he is doing. Well, he did get into a very good LAC, I think because of the the school's connection with this college. And very nearly flunked out. Some rigorous intervention was needed. As with a number of kids on this thread, he was diagnosed with ADD, and regular visits to the counselor at the health center and careful attention to medication is making the difference. But it is pretty clear this is going to be a rough climb. The thing going their way is that the student loves the school, and wants to stay there, and is willing to make that extra effort to stay. Some kids who just regard college as the next page to turn and are short sighted enough to understand that there may be rougher alternatives, may have to live them before deciding to bite the bullet and working with a regiment of sorts. Some may prefer those alternatives. </p>
<p>It seems to me that kids with SATs above 1500 still get into some pretty good schools, at the 1400 level there is definitely a drop, and below that the kids need to look at noncompetitive admissions. I know that the larger state schools do tend to be formulaic in admissions with heavy weight given to class rank/gpa. If a school has a relationship with a college, a counselor may help get the kid in despite the transcript, especially if the kids has a great resume and a wonderful personality. But make no mistake of it, the transcript is the strongest indicator of success in college, and if I were an adcom I would be very wary of kids in this category. Some sort of awareness of the issue, and some plan or program would need to be in place addressing the problem before I would admit such a student.</p>
<p>Ok, I have a related question:</p>
<p>I do have an upward trend on my transcript, which I know colleges look upon favorably. Unfortunately, my grades don't really go up until the second semester of my junior year. Does this count for anything, or will colleges think it's just a fluke?</p>
<p>3.3u (lots of aps) - 780/760 - 800/780/710
i think i fit this stereotype. </p>
<p>i'll post the outcome of my decisions</p>
<p>Lionswim, it depends on how your school reports the transcripts. My son benefited greatly from the fact that his school only posts the final grades so that he was spared the colleges seeing how he was all over the map during the quarters and on the exams. He always managed to get his grades up to A/B level by the end of the year, sometimes through some rough intervention and tutoring and micromanagement. BUt someone like you would benefit, if the college could see that upward trend in your junior year. Perhaps a copy of that report could be sent, or your GC could let the colleges know.</p>
<p>Props to whoever started this topic. I know a few friends who might want to read this.</p>