B or Withdrawl??

<p>Hey everybody, i recently was rejected from Cal for Haas and i plan on reapplying next year. I currently have a B in my physics class and have already calculated that i will not be able to raise it to an A. My current GPA is a 3.76 and i don't really want to lower it but i currently do not have any withdrawls.</p>

<p>What do you guys think i should do?</p>

<p>Drop it, if you’re absolutely certain you can’t get an A.</p>

<p>yeah if you don’t want to your GPA to drop, i’d drop it too…but retake it as soon as you can</p>

<p>well it is for my Breadth courses/IGETC which won’t be need for Haas transfers next year.</p>

<p>I’m in such a dilemma because if I don’t want to lower my GPA so i get a W but then i can take an easier science course next semester and raise my GPA but with a W on my record. It’s weird cause I won’t really need it.</p>

<p>Drop it. W is better than a B.</p>

<p>Does Haas frown upon Ws? People got into L&S with tons of Ws, but I don’t know about Haas…</p>

<p>If I were in your situation, I would probably drop the course, concentrate on getting all As in my other classes and take another science course next fall.</p>

<p>This does not make any rational sense at all, a ‘B’ is not a bad grade in physics.</p>

<p>Didn’t you apply to other schools, I’m sure you were smart enough to realize that admissions to UCB and UCLA is freaking competitive so there is no way to guarantee you are ever accepted. Take one of your other acceptances to UCSB, UCSD, UCD, or UCI, or whatever other schools that you most certainly got into. It’s not worth delaying your career a whole year just to have another chance at UCB.</p>

<p>Side note: If you have 70 units right now and your physics course is 4 units, getting an ‘A’ will raise your GPA from 3.76 to 3.77, getting a ‘B’ will result in a 3.72, this means your GPA will be a grand total of 1.4% less… whopdefreaking do</p>

<p>feedayeen has a good point: “UCB and UCLA is freaking competitive so there is no way to guarantee you are ever accepted.” Especially Haas…
If UC Berkeley is your absolute total dream school, though, I recommend you apply for a L&S major next fall. You’ll have a much better chance at acceptance. Besides you don’t need to major in Business Administration to get into an MBA program or to get a job in business.</p>

<p>Just asking for school advice not career advice but i appreciate your guys’ concern. I’m only a 2 year applicant and 20 years old so I’m 2 years younger than the average Haas applicant who’s been accepted. I’m applying to out of state b-schools (NYU, UVA, Georgetown, etc.) this upcoming fall as well and they don’t really care for W’s they just focus on GPA. In the mean time i plan on boosting my resume as well with more internships and community service. </p>

<p>Thanks guys</p>

<p>Taking a W in a Physics rather than getting a B is a disgrace. A B in Physics is a very respectable grade and dropping it would mean that someone else who could not get into that class because you are occupying that spot would have had their opportunity to transfer in a timely manner delayed for no good reason. </p>

<p>Getting an A in Physics is a lot harder than getting an A in Political Science. It can be done though if you work hard enough. I got plenty of them in upper division Physics courses at the University of Maryland College Park but I spent a lot of time studying.</p>

<p>i disagree with feedayeen. it would be even more of a shame to settle for something other than what you really want (especially when its still realistic…haas is difficult, but definitely possible to get into) for the sake of following certain conventional standards (ie getting your degree within 4 years). dude, its just one year. don’t let other people’s standards of “timing” pressure you…and honestly, i really admire the fact that you’re gonna give it another go. yeah its stubborn, but it hey, it shows perseverance…which is what berkeley loves to see. just make sure you raise your GPA and show them that you have significantly improved! if you still feel like you want something business-related a year on from now, but don’t feel like your resume has drastically improved…then economics would be a good alternative.</p>

<p>best of luck to you!</p>

<p>p.s. like the person above me said…a B in physics isn’t bad at all. only take the W if you KNOW you’ll get an A when you take it again.</p>

<p>I’m not a business major nor do I know anything about Haas but I was accepted to Cal with 19 Ws.</p>

<p>Would take the B over a W. Really, a B in Physics is not a bad grade…only in the CC world.</p>

<p>Actually, though a B in physics isn’t a bad grade, the OP is already concerned with their GPA being somewhat borderline for typical Haas admittance. Since you have a whole extra year to prepare, I would honestly take the W. They’re not even going to look twice at it especially if you get an A in it next time you take it.</p>

<p>Thanks gguys for the feedback. This is a tough decision for me. Physics is not a major prerequisite and I don’t even need it to transfer next year. I talked to my physics teacher and she said there is no way for you to get an A. I have an 85% I think for the sake of me applying to out of state schools I will drop the course. But if there any Haas students or acceptanced students or applicants with W’s let me know what I should do.</p>

<p>Think of it this way… your mom might be ecstatic and put your B+ physics test on the fridge because to her, that’s amazing. But in comparison to the other standard applicants to Haas, you need to bump UP your GPA from this year. If getting a B will maintain your GPA at a 3.75, then that’s okay because they’re probably not looking too hard at this particular grade, but if the B will bring your GPA down to a 3.6 or 3.7, you’re going to have to work twice as hard to bring it back up again. If you are straight up dedicated to do whatever you can to get into Haas, I’d drop the class. But if you’re considering accepting admission someplace else, then it’s your call.</p>

<p>@killmyebtourage</p>

<p>I’m definitely dedicated. I was taking mass amount of units the last 2 semesters and I am ready to do it again if needed.</p>

<p>But why? You are trying to get into Haas because in your mind this will give you a better shot at getting either an awesome job that pays better or somehow a better graduate program. Either way, your ultimate goal is to get more money in the end.</p>

<p>Dropping physics will only guarantee two things, you will take a whole year longer to graduate and you will also be denying an engineering or science major from taking the class that he needs.</p>

<p>If you get a ‘B’ in physics, your GPA will go down, by about 0.04. If you get an ‘A’, it will go up by 0.01 points. These are negligible changes. Since you seem to gauge your entire worth by your GPA however, I will burst your bubble, your GPA is too low to be competitive for Haas. You have a 3.76, Berkley’s median GPA was 3.86, nothing you do will change this unless you believe that you will spend the next 50 units getting all A’s.*</p>

<p>*[Wolfram|Alpha</a> | GPA calculator](<a href=“(3.76*70+4.0*x)/(70+x)=3.86]Wolfram|Alpha - Wolfram|Alpha”>(3.76*70+4.0*x)/(70+x)=3.86 - Wolfram|Alpha)</p>

<p>there were open spots in my Physics course to begin so you can’t use the engineer/science major argument.</p>

<p>A 3.86 is not necessary to transfer. I know a couple people who had 3.5s and 3.6s that got in this semester (with no internships or relative business experience) According to Haas, 50% is your GPA 35% Essays and 15% Resume. I know what i did wrong on my essays and i can improve that. I can boost my Resume by adding more internships and doing comm. service. And i can raise my GPA at the same time by taking courses that i need to transfer to other schools around the country. </p>

<p>If I have a chance to improve myself and reapply, I’ll take that any day.</p>

<p>EDIT: The middle 80% of people who get accepted is 3.7-4.0 so a 3.76 is not so bad compared to a 3.5/3.6
I use this site to calculate my GPA because it weighs in the amount of units each course you are taking into considering and i can also add potential classes and grades.
I calculated that if i take Cal2 Accounting 1 and 2 and a science course (geology or meteorology) and get A’s in those classes with a W in my current physics course i can raise my GPA to a 3.79.
<a href=“gpa calculator[/url] - Google Search”>gpa calculator - Google Search;

<p>3rd link. The site is censored from college confidential for some reason</p>

<p>Take the B.</p>