<p>I've already been turned down by UW Madison
Sporting a 3.2 gpa uw
28 act
1200 or so sat </p>
<p>I've been looking at UMinn TC
UMass Amherst
Montana State
Carleton
Hamline
Oregon State
St. Olaf
UMinn Duluth</p>
<p>What are my chances for these colleges,
I'm looking to go into engineering or law</p>
<p>Is that your M+CR SAT?</p>
<p>What is your home state?</p>
<p>I would think that Carleton might be harder to get into than UWisc</p>
<p>You have some out of state publics on your list. Will your parents pay for wherever you go? If not, what is your budget?</p>
<p>I’m not a 100% sure about our budget, but we were shooting for at the most about 25,000 a year.
Home state is Minnesota, and not sure on the sat scoree…</p>
<p>OP: the COA of the out of state publics on your list are well over the $25,000 you think is your budget. The private schools are as well. Outside of the 2 U Minn schools the least expensive would probably be Montana State.</p>
<p>I’m not sure if you would qualify for any merit aid at any of the above schools. If the $25,000 is your EFC then I doubt you would get any need based aid.</p>
<p>Minnesota has tuition agreements with several states besides Wisconsin. You would receive breaks in North Dakota, South Dakota and the Canadian province of Manitoba. Additionally, Minnesota participates in the Midwest Student Exchange which would allow you to pay 150% of the tuition cost at participating schools in certain programs. </p>
<p>Here are some links you might find useful:</p>
<p>[Reduced</a> Out-of-State Tuition Options](<a href=“Blog - Get Ready for College”>Blog - Get Ready for College)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.mhec.org/MidwestStudentExchangeProgram[/url]”>http://www.mhec.org/MidwestStudentExchangeProgram</a></p>
<p>Hey, Thanks for all the help but i think i worded this wrong</p>
<p>I looked at the oregon state and montana state tuitions and it was close to 20,000 for out of state, what are some good schools in manitoba? also any more recommendations?</p>
<p>The estimated COA for Oregon State is $34K when you add room and board, etc. At Montana State it’s $26.6K. Bemidji State and South Dakota state schools are relatively affordable.</p>
<p>OP: you need to look at the total cost of attendance, not just tuition, when considering if a school is affordable.</p>
<p>At this point the best thing you can do is sit down with your parents and have a frank discussion regarding college finances. If your parents have not run their numbers through an EFC estimator that should done asap. They may or may not be able to meet the EFC and that’s just a starting point.</p>
<p>Once you have a true picture of what your parents can help you pay per year of college it will give you a better idea of where you can afford to attend. I do know a young man who was a B student with a slightly higher ACT who did get some merit aid from Montana State. However, it was not nearly enough to bring the cost of attendance down to where it was affordable for him to attend.</p>
<p>If you are interested in engineering I would suggest you look at UW-Platteville. It has a good engineering program and you would receive a tuition break.</p>
<p>If you want to know the participating schools in Manitoba you can use the links I provided originally.</p>
<p>If you want a western school I would suggest U of Wyoming. With your stats you should be eligible for $5,000 / year merit aid which would bring the COA down to around $20,000. You would need to check the admission and scholarship deadlines.</p>
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<p>Well, the SAT is divided into three sections–critical reading, writing, and math. You get a score ranging from 200 to 800 on each of these sections, and then your total score is the sum of your sub-scores. However, sometimes people only report the sum of their critical reading and math scores, and NOT the writing score. mom2collegekids was asking whether your 1200 or so SAT was just for the critical reading and math sections, or whether it included all three.</p>
<p>What are you looking at for prices for out of state schools??? If you think that oregon state is $20k then you’re either very wrong or you plan on sleeping on the grass, subsisting on air, and doing your homework using library books…</p>
<p>YOU have to look at the cost of tuition, fees, room, board, books and probably transportation.</p>
<p>NewMexicoTech. </p>
<p>Arguably the best public university in the United States, this school offers private school student-faculty ratios at state school costs (projected $26k a year OOS tuition) and offers easy admissions standards.</p>
<p>NewMexicoTech = “arguably the best public university in the United States”?</p>
<p>Can you provide some elaboration please on the “arguably?”</p>
<p>I’ve never heard of New Mexico Tech? It’s not even the best public university in New Mexico, let alone the nation.
UC-Berkley, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Georgia Tech, William and Mary, UC-I, UC-SB, UC-D, UC-SD, UT-Austin, Michigan, UW-Madison, Purdue, UIUC, Penn State, OSU,…
Must I go on?</p>
<p>More undergraduate students per capita from NewMexicoTech (New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology) go on to earn PhDs than any other public school. Some of the big name schools it outperforms include Yale, Stanford, Cornell, Dartmouth, etc.
<a href=“http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf08311/nsf08311.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf08311/nsf08311.pdf</a></p>
<p>You can take some of the best students in the nation and expect the best results, but most students of NMT are, in fact, quite modest and average. This school is incredible in the ability to teach its students.</p>
<p>NMT benefits from generous federal funding. The school sports am impressive 12:1 student-faculty ratio. The school offers a number of unique research opportunities.</p>
<p>NMT also has a number of other lesser honors.
[New</a> Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology - Wikipedia”>New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>NMT isn’t a major public university like Berkeley, UVa, or Michigan. It doesn’t offer the vast array of majors. But the quality of its education is second to none and it offers a lot that these universities don’t.</p>
<p>(Admittedly, I’m into obscure, exotic “top” schools. lolz.)</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/907349-western-schools-3-0-3-3-kid.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/907349-western-schools-3-0-3-3-kid.html</a></p>
<p>Quality of education? Off the top of my head, I remember William and Mary being top 5 in “undergrad teaching”. Was NMT top 5? Nope. Idk how “generous funding” and a solid student:faculty ratio overrides the variety of courses, opportunities, prestige, etc.</p>
<p>And I dont see the relevance of the PhD thing…</p>
<p>It takes a great amount of effort to prepare an undergraduate student for a PhD. School such as CalTech take a strong initiative to open up spots for undergraduate research to get where it is. Students must also have high GRE and other standardized test scores. Grad schools don’t just admit any students. Many students who want to go to grad school are turned down and not admitted to any institution each year.</p>
<p>This is one of the purest measures to use to determine the success of students and the quality of a university, not some arbitrary ranking by a magazine which just funnels this information around. </p>
<p>Also, the National Science Foundation is a much more revered and respected source for university quality than probably any magazine or college guide out there.</p>
<p>Close to home yet far enough…Michigan Technological in Ironwood MI. You said Engineering, they have electrical enginneering, geological eng, environmental eng. and systems eng. Computer Eng. Material science eng. Survey eng, and a few other engineering applications. 75% acceptance rate, less than $25K I think under that midwest exchange thing. Super solid study abroad agreements.</p>
<p>Oh and for pre law, Knox College in Galesburg Il. Used to be reasonably priced, very good acceptance at the B level, heavy on the early application system.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Michigan Tech has a COA of over 36,000/year for an OOS student. I actually looked into the school for my own son. Michigan has also reduced the number of schools participating in the Midwest Student Exchange. Currently there are only 3 schools and Michigan Tech is not included. However, Michigan Tech does give scholarships and there is a calculator on their website should the OP want to check into it further.</p>
<p>I can understand apprehension about using WSJ and USNWR rankings. But they are holistic, fairly objective rankings. They are way more reputable than 1 stat about PhD percentages. Maybe kids at top schools find employment opportunities are widely available to them without grad degrees?</p>