<p>Does anyone know if applying to both Barnard and Columbia is not viewed favorably by Barnard? I’m applying ED to Columbia and RD to Barnard. Will this hurt my chances of getting into Barnard?</p>
<p>I do not think so. The admissions are entirely separate. The only thing would be if you are not sure why you think Barnard would be a "fit" for you...Columbia's "Core" and Barnard's way of meeting broad-based academic requirements (via the "Nine Ways of Knowing") are two quite different beasties....</p>
<p>You hopefully will be able to convey in your Barnard app (if you are not accepted to Columbia) why Barnard would be a good fit for you, apart from the fact that it is affiliated with Columbia.</p>
<p>okay, thank you. someone told me on another forum that a barnard admissions person told them that it wasn't looked favorably upon.</p>
<p>There should be no problem applying to both. Many people do. There is a group of students who will find NY the ideal place to go to college. There should be significant overlap. Of course each school would like to pick applicants who really want to go to that particular school and will look for that level of interest.</p>
<p>My daughter had the impression when she was applying that it was not looked favorably upon -- I don't know where she got that, but she took care in her RD application to telegraph the fact that Barnard was a top choice for her and that she was not applying to Columbia. Because the admissions is handled separately, there is no way that the college admissions committee can know which of their applicants have also applied to Columbia -- but I'll bet that with experience they can have a pretty good hunch based on the contents of the application. So, for example, I think the fact that my daughter submitted a supplemental dance resume and CD - even though she doesn't plan to major in dance -- would have helped make it clear why Barnard was a particular draw for her. Her really crummy math scores probably also made it clear that she wasn't exactly a hot prospect for Columbia, in any case.</p>
<p>All colleges want to protect their yield, so they are going to favor admitting students they think are likely to attend, and they will use their sense of fit plus their own data/experience to guide them in some of their decisions. </p>
<p>So I think that it still comes down to figuring why you think Barnard would be a good fit and then being able to convey that.</p>
<p>I don't think they look down upon it - there are people at Barnard who got in to both schools, so it must be allowed.</p>
<p>Just be careful that you really want to go to Barnard and don't just like the idea of Barnard/Columbia. They truly are two different, unique colleges; depending on the type of person you are it could be easy to be happy at one and miserable at the other. Barnard would surely frown upon those who apply only as a way of 'getting into Columbia'.</p>
<p>It's said you can get a Columbia's diploma after graduating from Barnard??</p>
<p>You get a diploma from Barnard College of Columbia University. I do not know the exact wording (the thing is in latin), but that is the gist of it. </p>
<p>It is a Columbia University (NOT Columbia College, of course) diploma.</p>
<p>barnard is very barnard-centric.. dean denburg, for instance, really encourages students to participate in barnard activities rather than flocking to columbia for them. but that doesnt mean applying to columbia will affect your application, if you are truly interested in both schools.</p>
<p>I posted the diploma, I guess it's only fair I post the translation:</p>
<p>"The Trustees of Columbia University
in the City of New York</p>
<p>To all and sundry to whom this document shall come, greetings. Know ye that inasmuch as she has duly and lawfully completed all the exercises pertaining to the degree of Bachelor of Arts, we have advanced </p>
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<p>to that degree and have granted and given her all the rights, privileges, and honors which are customarily bestowed in such instances. In more complete testimony whereof we have directed that this diploma be validated by the signatures of the President of this University and the President of Barnard College and also by our common seal.
Granted in New York on the ___ day of the month of ___ in the year two thousand ____."</p>