Barnard or NYU

<p>I'd like to apply to schools in NYC.
If I'm intersted in liberal art majors,which school do you think is better,Barnard College or NYU(CAS)?
BTW,which one do you think is easier to get in?</p>

<p>THANKS!!!</p>

<p>It's not an easy answer to say which is easier to get into. It really depends on the person. Barnard has higher stats, both for SAT's and GPA's, and Barnard has a lower admit rate. However, NYU is trying to attract males, OOS, and full-tuition candidates. So, on first glance NYU should be easier to get into, but this isn't the case for all applicants. In addition, Barnard is more likely to take into account "soft" elements like essays and recommendations, whereas NYU has so many more applications to consider that some of these elements may be more overlooked.</p>

<p>I am totally biased because my daughter attends Barnard and I think it is a wonderful school. I can't say which is "better" because that depends on what the person is looking for, (for instance Tisch is outstanding) but I will say that in my experience (and D's close friend attends NYU) Barnard is more scholarly and has extremely intense academics. In fact, D has told me that the classes at Barnard are even more intense than at its sibling institution, Columbia. D was looking for this rigor, so she is happy at Barnard. Barnard is also more likely to have small classes, though not all the classes are small either.</p>

<p>I would vote for Barnard. It would allow you access to classes across Columbia University, so it has just as many resources as NYU, along with an intellectual yet nurturing atmosphere. It also has a more defined campus than NYU, if that matters to you.</p>

<p>Another vote for Barnard. I have 2 grad degrees from NYU and my D took classes through her high school at NYU. What she learned from the experience was that she definitely did not want to attend college there. It depends on what you are looking for from your experience. If you are looking for warm fuzzies, you definitely will not get them at NYU (it is more of sink or swim at the undergrad level). If you need aid, it is less likely to come from NYU.</p>

<p>My D thought that Barnard was an amazing school (I still think it is an amazing school and I was a little sad when she turned them down to attend elsewhere). The one thing that I appreciate about Barnard is that they take wonderful care of the young women who attend the school and you feel it the moment you step on campus. My younger sister graduated from Columbia and is loyal to her school. While my D was growing up, all she heard from my sisiter is "you gotta go to Columbia." She has been to Columbia numerous times over the course of many years, and each time it just reinforced that she did not want to attend school there (for 2 schools directly across the street from each other, you can feel the different vibes on each campus).</p>

<p>IMO it's crazy to go to college at an all girls school. Then again girls don't look for boys like boys look for girls, lol.</p>

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<p>Op is not looking to go to an all girls school. She is looking to attend a women's college. Between the number of school within walking distance from Barnard/ and Columibia and being in morningside heights and the rest of NYC right outside, she won't have any problems finding a man if she is looking for one.</p>

<p>Actually, a part from freshman seminars, which are only open to Barnard students, I don't think D has had one class that was all women. Half her courses are at Columbia, and Barnard classes are attended by Columbia students. </p>

<p>Like sybbie's D, my D much preferred (and still does prefer) Barnard to Columbia.</p>

<p>I think more people would say, as a generic matter, that Barnard is stronger in liberal arts, and is harder to get into. At least that's my perception. You can look up the stats for yourself though, no need to take anyone's opinion.</p>

<p>But things are not always so simplistic, and "better" depends on you. For one thing, the schools have quite different atmospheres, I believe.</p>

<p>NYU has made monumental strides since the days when I was an applicant. It has a lot going for it, these days. It has a number of highly regarded departments, including several areas of the liberal arts. It is located in a great part of the city. The housing is supposed to be great. And in all likelihood it is coed in the dorms, which is where people meet each other the easiest.</p>

<p>However, from where I sit NYU has are a lot of negatives as well. The housing is all over the place, and there is hardly a campus at all. Consequently the connection of the students with the school itself is quite diluted. This is a problem with all the city schools, but moreso at NYU for the above reasons. It is a massive school with massive beaurocracy. Despite being coed, the overall male-female ratio there is only about the same as Columbia+ Barnard.</p>

<p>It really depends on the city. Some urban schools manage better than others to create a sense of campus community and connection with the school. Of course that has as much to do with the city in question. When you're in a city as good as NYC, it's awfully hard for anything on the Quad to compete...</p>