<p>It’s in this pamphlet,I’m not trying to argue this becuase I don’t care.
I’ve just read some posts and found it interesting becuase jomjom kept freaking out about the word “of”</p>
<p>Verbatim from the sheet</p>
<p>Partnership</p>
<p>“Barnard is both an independently incorporated education instutition and an official college OF columbia University- a unique position in the world of higher education that simultaneously affords it self-determination and a rich, value enhancing partnership.”</p>
<p>They also said the following one, you know, about it being an official college OF Columbia University. And yes, it was included in my acceptance packet, thus it came from the official college of Columbia.</p>
<p>We can agree to disagree. However, I don’t think I will be attending Columbia. I know I’ll attend Barnard College, an official college of Columbia University ;)</p>
<p>P.S. What is your background with either of these schools? I’m just wondering since you seem very adamant about this.</p>
<p>And, just out of curiosity, male or female?</p>
acceptance packet is not an legal nor finacial document. therefore it can say whatever it wants, such as Barnard College of Yale Law University. No problem with that. However, in legal and financial documents, it is not allowed to use ‘OF Columbia’, according to Barnard-Columbia’s legal and fianncial agreement.</p>
<p>jomjom’s a huge ■■■■■, so just ignore “it.”</p>
<p>But yeah, can someone point to a link or a quote from a Columbia official saying “Barnard is a part of Columbia University”? Much appreciated, thanks.</p>
<p>All I know is:
“Founded in 1889, Barnard is affiliated with Columbia University, but the college maintains separate faculty, administration, trustees, operating budget, and endowment.”
“Barnard currently pays an annual fee to Columbia to maintain the affiliation.”</p>
<p>Sure they’re affiliated. But I don’t see how anyone could POSSIBLY say “I go to Columbia” when she goes to Barnard. No, Barnard is not a college under Columbia - they are SEPARATE institutions that are affiliated because Barnard pays Columbia to let their students attend Columbia classes.</p>
<p>You get what you pay for. This argument is ridiculous. In fact, there is no argument.Just the same people continuing to post saying Barnard is not part of Columbia. Whatever. </p>
<p>This argument can be compared to financial aid. For instance, if I attend Barnard, I will have to pay full price, with no financial aid. And since Barnard pays Columbia to take classes, I could make the argument that I deserve to be in those classes more than Columbia students on financial aid, which is ridiculous. But, it goes back to you get what you pay for, and Columbia does not grant merit based aid. So, there you go. But here’s a link that says Barnard is WITHIN Columbia’s undergraduate system. >> “Barnard is located just across Broadway from Columbia’s main campus and is one of four undergraduate schools within the Columbia University system (the others are Columbia College, the Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science, and the School of General Studies).”</p>
<p>The main gate at Barnard says “Barnard College of Columbia University.” Barnard is a part of Columbia University. Columbia University does confer Barnard degrees. And in fact, Columbia did not go coed until the 1980’s because it wanted to incorporate Barnard and Barnard refused.</p>
<p>These facts are indisputable.</p>
<p>Is Barnard the same as Columbia College or part of Columbia College? Absolutely not.</p>
<p>My D would never wear a Columbia sweat shirt. That seems to be a bone of contention. All our paraphenalia proudly proclaims “Barnard College.” D does not say she attends Columbia. When some asks she always says, “Barnard College.”</p>
<p>However, almost half her classes have been across the street at Columbia because the Human Rights major is housed there.</p>
<p>She was hired by Columbia as a Columbia student to teach GED classes one summer.</p>
<p>She loves Columbia but she loves Barnard more, just as it should be since it is her school.</p>
<p>Then we will be sitting at the Columbia graduation where my D will get her degree for nothing.</p>
<p>I am not reading your links because I have a letter from Lee Bollinger inviting me to watch my daughter get her degree from Columbia. I have no idea who wrote the website or how misleading the wording is. Lee Bollinger is the president of Columbia University, and I accept his authority.</p>
<p>And why are you so adamant about this? I find it strange.</p>
<p>Yeah, jomjom has been doing this for a week, and never really responds topically, just reiterates his one point like some sort of jesus freak telling us the Rapture is coming.</p>
<p>I wish you could just block a user and ignore their posts.</p>
<p>Barnard is part of Columbia University. I am not opening this thread again, so don’t bothering answering me. I think I recognize you as an old poster with a new name, but maybe I’m wrong.</p>
<p>I am adamant because both prez of Barnard and prez of Columbia have told that it is.</p>
<p>I don’t see the need to post the link for commencement, but the official language is that the Barnard women are recommended for graduation at their own ceremony and their degrees are conferred at Columbia’s ceremony.</p>
<p>Sorry you don’t like this, but it’s a fact.</p>
Well. NO This is NOT true. Barnard web site says “Barnard is legally separate and financially independent from Columbia”" even though barnard diploma is co-signed by two school at Columbia commencement. and Columbia U says Barnard is an affiliate. </p>
This web site says Barnard is legally separate and financially independent from Columbia even though Barnard students can attend Columbia commencement. </p>
<p>Another one of those barnard/columbia threads? xP
Anyway, I’m planning on attending Columbia University in the fall (I’m a girl) and my mother went to Barnard College, so i have equal respect for both schools. </p>
<p>However, Barnard College is not part of Columbia University. Mythmom, it doesn’t matter what the president/officials of Barnard College say; if Columbia University officials have never released/posted/whatever a statement saying Barnard is part of Columbia University, then it isn’t. If a random college in the middle of nowhere posted “We are part of Harvard,” would that make it true then? Since it’s on that fictional random school’s official website it must be true… (<em>sarcasm</em>)</p>
<p>To other people commenting on the thread, jomjom is a bit of an a** with his arrogant posts and undermining of other schools, but just because he’s an a** doesn’t make his statements less true or credible. This reminds me of an article by Thomas Friedman in the New York Times, where he wrote that just because people hate George Bush it doesn’t mean everything he says is wrong - Bush can still have good points. JomJom’s links are all to official Columbia University websites - they’re all valid.</p>
<p>Barnard is a fantastic college - it gives great support to its students and gives an ideal liberal arts education. This comes from all my mother has told me about Barnard. Does it matter it’s not part of Columbia University? Your daughter should be proud of attending Barnard.</p>
<p>Also, just because Barnard College degrees are conferred at a ceremony on the Columbia campus doesn’t mean it’s awarded by Columbia University. </p>
<p>Perhaps you misunderstood President Lee C. Bollinger’s letter; most likely he invited you to the Columbia University campus where she will be getting her degree from Barnard. Did the letter actually say something along the lines of “Your daughter will be receiving a degree from Columbia University” ?</p>
<p>The gates of Barnard college DO say Barnard college OF Columbia University. I doubt Columbia would just let the gates stand if it weren’t true.
You are right, Barnard is separate from Columbia College but part of Columbia University.</p>