<p>YES OMG FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREEEESSSSSSS</p>
<p>last year one of my friends got rejected from Columbia ED, got in Barnard regular. she bragged to eveyone one columbia, and all over her facebook are comments on how she’s gonna be so happy at “columbia” no mention of barnard at all. COLUMBIA > BARNARD, BY A LOT, sorry if that offends anyone.</p>
<p>and wow I just noticed this was a 49 + page thread. okay seriously we wouldn’t need to have this super long convo if Barnard folks just realize that, although they do get certain Columbia resources, they are NOT part of CC or SEAS community. THEY NEED TO RESPOND “BARNARD COLLEGE” when asked, unless, of course, they’re embarrassed -.-</p>
<p>ok that was kind of harsh sorry if that offends anyone</p>
<p>Seriously, people need to stop bashing. What happens if you saw an attractive girl who was from Barnard, oh wait, you probably will get rejected from her if you have this kind of attitude (applies to guys only). What happens if you’re coworker is from Barnard, will you belittle her and her education and cause her to file a complain in Human Resource and get fired? Yeah, if you decide to continue to criticize her and make fun of her (also can be considered a sexual harassment suit, yeah you won’t like those). What happens if you’re doctor was from Barnard? I guess you’ll go try self treatment and overdose on some kind of over the counter drugs? Maybe, if you are that passionate about what you consider an “inferiority” education from Barnard.</p>
<p>For those people who are Barnard bashers. Nice job showing off your Superiority Complex, good luck trying to make friends by showing that off.
P.S. to all the male out there. I sure hope that you aren’t that arrogant because you sure won’t get girls that way. (oh and I am a male, I also am a person who sees education as universal, just because you got into an Ivy league school like Columbia (yes I did too), doesn’t mean you can be arrogant and decide to start bashing other schools. In the end, an education is an education is an education. It’s what you do with it, not where you get it.)</p>
<p>No one is bashing Barnard. We (or at least I am) are here to set the record straight on two things:</p>
<p>1) Barnard and Columbia are separate institutions and Barnard is in no way, shape or form part of (affiliated with, not incorporated into) the Columbia University undergraduate community (CC and SEAS). Whether this is considered a good or bad thing is wholly up to your personal interpretation.</p>
<p>2) Columbia is a more prestigious school than Barnard. But because “prestige” is very much a subjective matter, you are free to believe differently, like maybe how your local community college is better than Harvard. Your choice.</p>
<p>(Re post #723): You are in for a huge surprise when you arrive for O-week.</p>
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<p>Do people in this modern day and time seriously care about the “prestige” of their UNDERGRAD college? O_o Just saying…I could sort of understand wanting a prestigious grad school…it would be like adding a cherry on top of the cake. But no one in the real world cares about undergrad…except if you are going for business I guess.</p>
<p>More practical folks don’t even care about prestige as long as you end up getting the career that you want.</p>
<p>Well, lets see. I hate to use this example but just because somebody got into Columbia doesn’t mean they are always smart. Just because Columbia might offer superior education (which also is not always true because there are some teachers that are worse than public college teachers), doesn’t mean the students will take it in. Exhibit A: the students who were just busted for drug possession. Now I hate to use it because the media has blown it up, but really, being a Columbia student doesn’t mean one actually uses his/her brain to think about choices in life.
Also, like what Silence1113 said, prestige means little in life. There are people who graduate from the University of Michigan, the University of Virginia and beat Harvard kids. There are kids that graduate from a public school like Michigan State who get wall street jobs while Columbia students are unemployed. So no, prestige does not matter and yes, my local public school that probably is looked down upon by private school students can be at times better than Harvard because they produce people that save lives: Nurses who care more about people than money, Firemen who care about lives rather than the number of awards they win. When I am in trouble, those people matter to me more. I know that I am safe at night because those people care about my life when I am in danger.
Oh and there are Barnard bashers, just look back a couple pages. There are some pretty vocal people.
Either way, my wish was for this thread to die because it is such a bad thread that does nothing but make Columbia students look arrogant.</p>
<p>ok some of ya’ll need to chill</p>
<p>1)gunit, bro, no one is bashing barnard. If I see an attraction girl from Barnard, I will hit on her. period. I completely respect people who got in Barnard. But when someone people (that I know of) get rejected from Columbia, but get in barnard later on, and brags to everyone that they got in Columbia, that is kind of irritating. k? </p>
<p>2)silence, don’t bring down people who want a “prestigious” undergrad experience just because you got rejected from Columbia, that’s kind of low dude. If you didn’t want a “prestigious” undergrad experience why did you even apply to Columbia ED?</p>
<p>3)GREAT GUNIT WE GET YOUR POINT. people that get in Columbia are not necessarily smart. cool story bro, I agree completely.</p>
<p>4)To future people who get in barnard: if you get asked what college you’re going to, just say barnard. People like gunit are freaking out over here. If you don’t say you go to barnard and say Columbia, I could really care less. Its just sort of irritating. </p>
<p>K everyone cool? k cool. I concur with Light Airen. If you have anything productive, that HASN’T ALREADY BEEN SAID, feel free to add in your comment. Seriously people are getting way too worked up over a small thing</p>
<p>collegeftw, can you open up your PM settings? I have a message for you.</p>
<p>Sigh, this thread is never going away, is it? The influx of ignorant prospies who insist on arguing over this distinction is a perennial occurrence. All well.</p>
<p>Post #724: What kind of surprise are you talking about?</p>
<p>“What kind of surprise are you talking about?”
She can’t tell you, it’s a surprise remember.</p>
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Agreed … and to me the worst part is the whole arguement is about symantics. For the students attending (or thinking about attending) the schools have an affiliation that offers advantages to both schools … bennies that prospective students should understand and are selling points for both schools … and instead we have the monthly negative slugfest around words to describe a VERY positive thing for both schools.</p>
<p>pwoods, bro I get you completely. People seriously need to chill out on this and make up stupid scenarios (ahem gunit) to prove their points. ITS OKAY IF YOU KNOW YOUR RIGHT THATS THE ONLY THAT MATTES. Stop trying to hard to convince other ppl. k cool. lol. Also, Gunit, if after reading my last post you still want to argue, I’ll change my mind just to agree with you so you can **** k? I’m sure everyone else on this thread will choose to agree with you also if that can make you stop talking. k cool.</p>
<p>also, light airen, lol I’m kind of a noob on college confidential, how do i open up the pm setting you were talking about lol?</p>
<p>I’m going to Barnard, but I joined the Columbia facebook network. Most Barnard women do.</p>
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<p>There is no such thing as a “prestigious undergrad experience”. A person/institution could be prestigious. An experience can’t be prestigious, especially in the context that we are speaking in. For all I know, many people have the same great college experience. And to push my point further, some people don’t like their college experience such as Truazn who posted his view of Columbia as a senior. So the so called “prestigious experience” is irrational.</p>
<p>Haha, so what if I got rejected from Columbia? Dude, get off your high horse and put things in perspective. That doesn’t mean anything to me, besides the fact that I’ll be applying RD to other colleges. <–Honest answer BTW.</p>
<p>Good question! Well I never applied to Columbia, or will apply to any college for that matter, because of its prestige. I apply to colleges due to their rigorous/challenging courses. Simple as that. There is no doubt a correlation between the rigor of courses at colleges as they are ranked better on US News. The so called “prestige” was a by product that came with the ranking. Even if Columbia wasn’t an Ivy, yet I knew of it’s rigorous courses I would have applied.</p>
<p>If Barnard students would just say they’re studying at Barnard, and not Columbia, I’m sure this thread would not have resulted in a fifty page flame war.</p>
<p>EDIT: collegeftw, I think you have your private messages setting set as “off”, meaning you chose not to receive PMs when you first signed up to CC I believe. Play around with the settings and controls now that you have free time on your hands :)</p>
<p>How about if Columbia students just acknowledge the affiliation? It’s been 120 years now, and counting…</p>
<p>I like how silence is trying to convince himself Columbia wasn’t that special and that he didn’t care he got rejected, even though he had more posts than anyone else before results came out and even wrote a poem on columbia’s facebook page. </p>
<p>Hey man, first of all, I’m not being arrogant, or as you so eloquently proposed “on my high horse.” I’m merely stating that your quote “prestigious undergrad doesn’t matter” is BS. There, I said it. There is a reason why everyone would rather go to Harvard or Princeton or Yale or Columbia over a state college. State colleges, don’t get me wrong, is EXCELLENT, but there is the comparison. </p>
<p>And hey man, not to make you feel bad, but you contradicted yourself like a million times. You said you didn’t care about “prestige” then you said you wanted to go to a college that is “rigorous.” Lmao I don’t know what youre trying to do there, but you seem to be saying prestigious isn’t related to the rigor of a school at all. Do your homework before you start spewing random ____ son.</p>
<p>Some people, as you said, didn’t like their college experience at Columbia. I completely respect that. I never said “prestigious” was related to “everyone liking it.” Experiences are personal, but I bet Truazn (since you brought him up) will 100% agree Columbia is still prestigious.</p>
<p>Okay, your rejection doesn’t mean anything to you. It doesn’t mean anything to me. Once again, I’m saying you shouldn’t undermine people who want a “prestigious” undergrad experience simply because you can’t get in Columbia. GET IT NOW???</p>
<p>owned.</p>
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Arrogant much? That last part was definitely arrogant. So I guess you contradicted yourself considering you said that you’re “not being arrogant.”</p>
<p>BTW, chill, calm down. You haven’t even started Columbia as a student. Yes you got in, but that doesn’t mean you have experienced everything. So until you actually experienced Columbia’s relationship with Barnard, please put your temper to rest. Who knows, you might like the Barnard students (especially since you’re thinking about hitting on them, which is really really ironic considering much you’ve criticized Barnard). So lets all stop posting on this thread and go sing some carols to your neighbors or help little kids in need get their Christmas wishes.</p>