<p>It’s crazy how some of these Columbia newbies haven’t even attended, yet think they know about the relationship. Once you get there no one hardly thinks about it and you will see how extremely integrated the schools are. If Barnard wasn’t apart of the Columbia community why do they share varsity sports, or most of the same clubs, or Barnard is allowed to take part in Greek Life? Sure Columbia’s admissions committee is more selective, but that in no way implies or translates into intelligence. Also Barnard is single sex, so it’s not even fair to compare the two.
My friend just recently got admitted into Columbia ED and me Barnard ED, yet we share almost exactly the same stats, with me even having more accomplishments. I’m not saying I am better than her, but just because you’re admitted into Columbia, does not mean your level of intelligence is any higher than a Barnard student. I would be embarrassed if I were a CC or SEAS student to see such immature and degrading comments.</p>
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<p>Columbia, to me, wasn’t anymore special than the other Ivys and NYU. I swear to God, if you believe in God, that I didn’t care about my rejection from Columbia. Not for a minute. Call it a lack of love for Columbia…but I call it being practical. So what if Columbia doesn’t accept me? Nothing at all.</p>
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<p>It’s not BS at all. It’s the truth. And don’tr lecture me on something that you don’t know because in the end you’ll end up looking like a fool in the eyes of others. As a matter of fact, I know many grads, in state colleges and Ivys: THE PRESTIGE OF UNDERGRAD DOES NOT MATTER. No one in the real world cares about undergrad expect if that’s where you choose to end your college life (such as many business students do). I however, intend to go to GRAD school for med. </p>
<p>And I’ll tell you why many people choose the Ivys over state. MEDIA. You think that if US News and other ranking websites didn’t exist, the Ivys would be selective as they are now? I highly doubt that. But since we have rankings, obviously people want to choose the best school they could get into according to the rankings. And when people look at the rankings they think of them as being ranked in order of, to say in simple words, “smarter schools”. Prestige I said before is a by product that in the real world won’t matter much. </p>
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<p>So to you: prestige=rigorous? Anyways, yes I am trying to say that rigor is not related to prestige. Many state colleges prepare you for what you need to get into grad school. Others are excellent research centers.Those to me, are rigorous school. That school, however, may not be known. And you need to grow up.</p>
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<p>When did I say that Columbia is “not prestigious”? Lmao. I never said that. I have been saying the whole entire time that Columbia is prestigious, but it doesn’t have any value in the real world.</p>
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<p>Yup. Cool.And once again I say that this:</p>
<p>“prestigious undergrad experience”</p>
<p>Is BS. I don’t care LMAO XD. Man, I feel like you are begging me to care I didn’t get into Columbia haha.</p>
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<p>Grow up :)</p>
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<p>^^^Get away ■■■■■.</p>
<p>Okay, since we’re hitting on very subjective matters, let’s just drop everything and stop arguing. k? everyone has their own opinions.</p>
<p>I think undergrad experience matters, Silence doesn’t. Okay, difference of opinion, no need to go ballistic. No one is right.</p>
<p>I think Barnard is not formally part of Columbia, abercrombie does. Doesn’t matter…I’ll keep my opinion to myself, and abercrombie can keep hers to herself. K cool? </p>
<p>I think Silence is saying undergrad doesn’t matter at all and Columbia is not that distinguished because he got rejected. He thinks he’s doing it to help others. Difference of opinion again…no right or wrong.</p>
<p>I think I’m not being arrogant when I point out the thing above, some of you do. K I’ll stop just to make you happy okay? I’ll keep this opinion to myself, and ya’ll can think whatever you want.</p>
<p>We all cool? This thread is 4 years old guys. Chill out and leave it</p>
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<p>Wrong. You need a high GPA and high test score (MCAT, PCAT etc) in undergrad, to be set for grad. I simply said an undergrad’s prestige doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>Yes, Columbia is distinguished. It’s ranked 4th in the nation obviously. But in the real world its prestige doesn’t matter. In Grad school, if you go, you’ll find state college kids, going with elite college kids, int he same grad school. That’s the reality of life. The Grad school’s prestige, however, is more valued in this case, but even then, in the end a Doctor is a Doctor, whether that be from Harvard or from New York Medical College. </p>
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<p>I think you may have some complexity with getting into Columbia. I may even go as far as saying that you are insecure. That’s why you keep repeating it. Once again I’ll tell you, I don’t mind about not getting in. Plenty of other great schools out there.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>omg silence. So you still want to argue? Even after I have said everything you want to believe is true and apologized?</p>
<p>okay.
you don’t think undergrad prestige matters. OKAY GOOD FOR YOU. I do. You can think whatever you want, and I’ll think whatever I want okay? Stop writing paragraphs explaining why you think prestige doesn’t matter. I really don’t care man…if youre trying to convince other ppl on this thread (…like … who…?) then send them a private message.</p>
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I"m not trying to make you feel bad when I say you got rejected…There iS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. I’m saying youre trying to convince everyone undergrad doesn’t matter because you got rejected. I can go through all your writings on CC, and I bet I’ll find one with you saying how much you care about Columbia undergrad. Then once you got rejected, you started spewing stuff about how undergrad doesn’t matter at all.</p>
<p>once again, if you dont think undergrad matters, good for you. k? </p>
<p>or, if you want, I’ll agree with you. Undergrad prestige doesn’t matter. Okay? Do you feel better now? Do you feel more secure now? Don’t have to write paragraphs saying how undergrad doesn’t matter anymore, do you? Youre really spamming my email there dude</p>
<p>Who caaaaaaares. Stop hating on eachother, cuz we need more lovin’ in here. Barnard girls are a boon to the Columbia community, especially the dating pool, and if some of them are insecure enough that they feel like they need to say they go to Columbia, then that’s their own personal decision to lie. There’s no need to use cases like that to generalize about their entire student body. It’s not like lying and insecurity are new phenomena or anything either, so there’s no need to treat them like they’re horrendous and unforgivable sins.</p>
<p>“lack of love for Columbia”? then why did you even bother to spend admission fee to apply? if you didn’t care for your rejection, why do you keep bringing it up?</p>
<p>when I see silence1113’s post I imagine a vast orchard of sour, very very sour grapes.</p>
<p>this kid posted like 10 threads in columbia’s forum and just because he got rejected he’s saying he doesn’t care about columbia lolololololol</p>
<p>and now undergrad prestige doesnt matter, and he’s still applying to penn, cornell etc lololololol</p>
<p>kid please ■■■■</p>
<p>seriously kid, you’re digging yourself into a deeper hole by every stupid post you make.</p>
<p>OMG WIFEY AND SOURSOURGRAPES HIGH FIVE!!!</p>
<p>silence is annoying the crap out of me</p>
<p>For the love of god, not this ***** again.</p>
<p>Let’s clarify one more time.</p>
<p>Barnard is a separate institution. All of the schools share different graduation requirements. Barnard is, however, very much part of CU’s social fabric. As a Barnard student, I can attest to the fact that Barnard and CU students are involved in the same clubs, magazines, websites. They share many of the same teachers and classes. They run into each other every day and sometimes for the life of me I cannot tell the physical differences between each school, owing to the fact that you see males on the BC campus all the time. Why? Because they all exist within the very tiny 10-block parameters of this particular section that lies within Boringside Heights and close interaction is inevitable.</p>
<p>When you meet a kid, everyone’s going to state their respective college - not just “Columbia” or "Barnard, but “CC, SEAS, GS, Barnard”. Barnard girls, don’t say Columbia. Just don’t. Everyone will respect you more and not assume that you hold some kind of inferiority complex, and nobody actually says just “Columbia” either unless in reference to CC. Since we all kind of exist within the same umbrella, you’re better off trying to impress them by actively displaying the intelligence, sass, and awesomeness that got you into your respective school in the first place instead of plain name-dropping. There’s no reason to get defensive either, unless they actually denigrate Barnard to your face (and few will have the balls to; they’ll usually resort to hostile anonymous comments on Bwog). You will get hit often by CC boys who operate on the assumption that Barnard girls are easier, but you can readily ignore them. Basic decency in a person an Ivy League education does not create. </p>
<p>BTW, with the new Facebook layout, it’s difficult to say whether you can sign up for the Barnard network without being forced to acknowledge Columbia as well; right now, my profile reads simply “Barnard College”, but when I enter my name in the FB searchbox, “Columbia” pops up as my network. It’s a bit befuddling.</p>
<p>That said, for the same reasons that you would assume that a Barnard girl who lies about the college she’s from is a prestige-mongering phony, it’s not inaccurate to assume that a CU kid looks down at Barnard with a maddening air of superiority is both a tool and a d-bag</p>
<p>KIWI THANKS SO MUCH!!!</p>
<p>THAT"S EXACTLY what I was trying to get across to stubborn, annoying people like Silence. I even apologized and said he was right at the end just so he can stop talking and spamming my email…but…as you can see…he continued.</p>
<p>Okay now that we established silence is wrong and kiwi’s post obviously sums everything up, let’s stop spamming, k guys? cool stuff</p>
<p>“Barnard girls, don’t say Columbia. Just don’t.”</p>
<p>If only. If only.</p>
<p>To be honest, the “tool remark” referred to several of you CC posters, but never mind. Please stop this thread. </p>
<p>Anyone who goes onto campus (you’re all high-schoolers, aren’t you? Why the hell do you act like you know what happens on campus?) knows that it isn’t Barnard vs. Columbia so much as it is shallow sleazes who rely solely on their college name for self-esteem vs. productive students who are too busy working, collaborating (sometimes with BC students, yes) and moving on to greater planes of enlightenment to spend too much time dwelling on this crap. That said, I hope you can all move beyond these petty grievances. You’re going to have to mingle with us Barnard girls a lot for the next four years, whether you like it or not. Your club head, peer, girlfriend, or date might turn out to be a BC student, so be prepared to descend from your high horses. We’ll help you.</p>
<p>kiwi nights, the thing is, all the reasonable ppl on this thread (like wifey, sourgrapes, me, light airen, etc.) agree with you. wholeheartedly. esp since ur a student at barnard right now, so ur credibility is extrememly high</p>
<p>but theres ignorant, stupid ppl like silence on this thread who keeps bringing up illogical crap and calling other ppl “arrogant” and making dumb arguments that don’t make ANY sense. go ahead, go back a few pages, and read what he has to say. </p>
<p>Anyways, I completely SECOND kiwi_nights, noobs like silence need to ■■■■ this thread so this 4 year old thread can end.</p>
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<p>Both me and my friend want to attend Columbia, I’m planning to apply to CC, and she’s planning to apply to Barnard, but she sees it as a backdoor into CC (can take the same classes, similar diploma), and she asked why didn’t I apply to Barnard also. So I was wondering, considering that tuition to Barnard is less than CC, and I can take the same classes as if I applied to CC, as a female, why should I choose CC over Barnard?</p>
<p>You need to do a LOT of research on these two very different schools. The most obvious is that at CC you have a very strictly identified core curriculum; Barnard’s basic requirements are much less structured. There are other differences, but this is the first and one of the most significant. </p>
<p>So, you need to decide which school better suits what you want in your college experience.</p>
<p>I like it how calmom has never given up over the years. She wants to convince herself that her daughter goes to Columbia really badly.</p>