<p>so which one should I go to. I am a white male from NY and i wanna major in economics and do pre-med.</p>
<p>Difference is not significant but I would say
UNC-CH >William and Mary=BC</p>
<p>One point to remember, UNC's definitely a great school, but it seems that BC is more focused on undergrads, many more out of staters, and a smaller student body</p>
<p>I agree with DTan, UNC for Pre-med and a pretty economics program</p>
<p>Econ and premed, weird combo</p>
<p>Its not that weird. Economics would probably be something to fall back on if med school doesnt work out, right OP?</p>
<p>UNC would probably be the best, its pretty cheap even OOS</p>
<p>$30,000+ is cheap? Their price is the only reason I'm not there right now</p>
<p>If you can get a good scholarship or finances aren't a problem OOS, go to UNC.</p>
<p>W&m> Bc = Unc</p>
<p>I concur ^</p>
<p>unc-better academics and nice weather</p>
<p>Go to W&M or BC for undergrad experience. Go to UNC for med school or grad school. Then will have strengths of both programs. </p>
<p>Most of UNC students would have no chance to go there for med school. If you go to UNC you will be at the top looking down. Lots of W&M rejects at UNC. At W&M and BC you will be surrounded by peers. This should push you harder and raise your expectations. Unless you are the type that doesnt like a challenge.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>ba3452: Go check the other thread here where someone else posed the same question, between UNC and W&M. UNC really is the better option; I think it's the superior school--in academics, in rankings, and in what it offers. It is also a much, much tougher school to get into from OOS than is W&M. I think it really depends on what type of school you want, though. They're very different (W&M and UNC). I do know that UNC has top students, from both in-state and OOS who attend and are very happy there.
If I was interested in pre-med, especially, I'd certainly go to UNC--no question. </p>
<p>I would also post this on the UNC-CH board. Plenty of students/parents, and those who are pre-med, will give you lots of information.</p>
<p>I do believe doctorb has an ax to grind, though. I'm guessing he applied to UNC-CH at one time and didn't get in. Just a guess.</p>
<p>Jack</p>
<p>It's funny how you accuse docb of having an agenda, when yours is not so thinly-veiled itself.</p>
<p>I think W&M is at least as tough to get in as UNC for OOS. To say categorically that it is a much better school than W&M is very preposterous.</p>
<p>W&M is not easier to get into from OOS than UNC, so I dont know where that comes from. It is also a better school for undergrads.</p>
<p>namtrag: Read doctorb's other posts on this subject, and you'll see where I'm coming from.</p>
<p>In terms of rankings and strengths of departments, UNC actually is stronger than W&M on those fronts. That's not just opinion. I think they're both fine schools, though very different. Again, though, if interested in pre-med, I'd certainly choose the higher ranked institution <em>and</em> the one with a top medical school. </p>
<p>I don't know what the percentage of OOS is at W&M; at UNC, it's around 18%; consequently, the OOS acceptance is extremely difficult.</p>
<p>These are all facts, not "thinly veiled," and not merely opinions. </p>
<p>I do think these 2 schools are very different, and if you prefer a much smaller school, W&M is probably your better choice. Again, I would choose a school with a strong pre-med program, and one with an actual medical school attached (and a top one, to boot), but that's really my opinion. Does W&M have a medical school?</p>
<p>well the OP is already in both schools--so what does it matter on which is harder to get into.</p>
<p>OP, W&M is much different than BC and UNC. Regardless of whatever any other people want to tell you, Williamsburg is a pretty terrible college town (I.E. nothing to do...only so many trips to Busch Gardens), and W&M students, as a whole, are known to be less likely to go out and have fun/party. I think everyone can agree with that. While I would place academics at UNC and W&M at about the same, and slightly lower at BC, I would rate the college experiences as UNC, BC, and then W&M a distant last--unless you're not into the college life those 2 schools offer. If partying isn't your thing, if sports isn't your thing, and if you want your college experience to be completely "on campus," then W&M is the place to be.</p>
<p>On another note, as long as you do well in college, you won't really fare any better at any school for pre-med. And, I just noticed it above but didn't read all of it...even OOS, UNC is the cheapest of the 3. W&M in the end will run around $36,000--I know UVA does, and W&M is historically a little more expensive.</p>
<p>I had a great time at W&M, but then again, I was in a frat!</p>
<p>All I was saying to the one guy, is he accused doc of having an agenda, then he claimed UNC was superior. His post was a little condescending IMO. I believe admission statistics might show that OOS admissions to UNC is very difficult, but in-state is probably not too hard. I don't know this for a fact, just seems I read that somewhere. When you have such a restrictive admissions limit on OOS, of course you are going to have a difficult time getting in from OOS. W&M and UVA are 35% OOS, and are still as hard as, or harder, to get in from OOS as UNC.</p>
<p>Choose the school that fits your personality best, because you can't go wrong academically at any of them.</p>
<p>Jack- </p>
<p>get a clue. Here are the facts, NC ranks anywhere from 47-50 in the USA in education. 85% of UNC students are in -state. Look at SAT scores, student retention and graduation rates. Compare them to BC and W&M. Its not even close.</p>
<p>UNC is a great research school but having lived in NC for the past 16Yrs, I can tell you from first hand experience that W&M is the better undergrad school. I have family members as UNC alums and they have agreed with me without hesitation.</p>
<p>If all you are relying upon is "rankings" then I rest my case.UNC is a great school but lets not make it into something it is not.</p>
<p>doctorb:</p>
<p>Actually, 82% are in-state; 18% are out of state. And since you've lived here for 16+ years, you will know that this state is growing at a rate faster than it can handle; consequently, a large portion of the people who live here aren't even from NC. Most especially in the RTP area, a huge number of international folks live here, as well as people from everywhere in the country.</p>
<p>The only way you could tell me, from "first hand experience," that W&M is a better undergraduate experience, is if you attended both schools as an undergraduate. Even then, this would merely be your experience and from your perspective. For someone else, it might be a miserable experience. The same would be true for UNC or BC. What's great for one person might not be for another.</p>
<p>As I said in an earlier post, I think both schools are excellent (although UNC is ranked higher in every regard). They are very different schools, in terms of size, etc. So I think the choice for anyone comes down to fit. I expect the OP would get an excellent education at any of these schools. (I know nothing of BC, so I have no comment there.)</p>
<p>Perhaps you would be happier moving back to Virginia. ;)</p>
<p>"Does W&M have a medical school?" </p>
<p>No, just the best Med school placement % in the state of Va. </p>
<p>Does Davidson/Amherst/Pomona?. No, but VCU and East Carolina do so they must be better schools for pre med. </p>
<p>What a dumb statement.</p>