<p>So I guess if you failed to get the grades needed to get into Kelley, or if IU wasn’t at the top of your list and you were finally able to transfer into a school that wouldn’t let you in when you first applied to colleges, that makes IU a bad school.</p>
<p>^ If you’re talking to me, you’re putting words in my mouth. </p>
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<p>I was ** never ** a prospective business major</p>
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<p>IU ** was ** my second choice. U of MN was ** not ** my first choice.</p>
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IU is not a “bad school.” Bloomington is great and the professors/resources on campus are fantastic but the social scene here is not for everyone. Me, and many people I know, were not happy with it. Why pay OOS tuition to be unhappy?</p>
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<p>You may have never “officially” been a prospective business major, but according to you, you did have the desire to enter Kelley but failed to do well enough in the pre-reqs. </p>
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<p>First Post:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-wisconsin-madison/1060092-transfer-chances.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-wisconsin-madison/1060092-transfer-chances.html</a></p>
<p>OK, I take that back. I was for like half a semester. I didn’t know people creeped so hard on here.</p>
<p>I didn’t say UMinn was your top choice. You are from Minneapolis and applied to UMinn and were waitlisted, and are now transferring to UMinn. I don’t understand the need to criticize IU on the way out back there. Minneapolis is a great city and UMinn a great school. I am sure you will do great there.</p>
<p>My two sons will be attending IU this Fall. Actually S1 is currently at IU for the next five weeks. He seems to enjoy the time with other students in the group. They are already talking about moving into the same apartment next year. I am happy with the opportunities the boys have at IU so far. Nonetheless, I am also concerned about if they can stay focused during the next 4 years. S1 will be in CLLC since he applied late. S2 applied to KLLC in early December and got an approval letter only to find out, in May, that he will be in Brisco which is the #1 party dorm in the US as I was told. I was once thinking about switching the boys between the two dorms since S1 is not likely to be affected by the dorm environment while S2 may be bothered.</p>
<p>I believe that dorm environment and the friends they make are likely to impact most freshmen. Do not isolate yourself. Seek for help if necessary. For a big state school, anything could happen especially it had happened at Yale and Cornell.</p>
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<p>I can understand the OP’s frustration.</p>
<p>I got placed in a really crappy dorm set up, really took the wind out of me Freshman year. Nevertheless, I went out and made lots of friends. Biggest regret was I didn’t rush the fall of Freshman year… so I experienced for a few months what “GDI” life was like… yea its quite tough.</p>
<p>I mean I managed to meet some real cool students and we could go to at least 1 party a week but it seemed like the Greek life just dominated. </p>
<p>So, of course I joined a fraternity. The rest was history. I was in student government, got involved with my fraternity, and continued to study hard.</p>
<p>Really though the DA route is just so much easier then trying to get in as a non-admit. As it should be. The fact that people who did not do well in high school can get a second change with in my opinion, not that hard requirements, is something they should be thankful for. I’ve had many friends / brothers who worked their ass off and got into the B-School.</p>
<p>You screwed up in high school, what do you expect a cupcake to get in to the 10th best business school in the nation? Personally, I would like the whole non-admit system to be rid of and just go straight direct admit. But IU would never get rid of that since this system encourages a higher enrollment.</p>
<p>And no. Those “files” you speak of are pretty much irrelevant these days, especially in the Kelley school. From personal experience, the most cheating I saw was brothers helping each other on minor assignments. I never personally saw any test bank being used.</p>
<p>Nor do you really need it. </p>
<p>In the end, OP is right though. “GDI” life did suck if you like to party. Do fall rush, if not just for the experience. It will help in so many ways though if you like to party.</p>
<p>Don’t hate the system, be part of it. My internship class last summer consisted of at least 75% Greek. And you don’t need to be Greek to be part of student government. I went through resident hall government my freshman year, and through that made connections. When the time came, I got offered a directorship position in the IUSA. And I wasn’t even that sociable back then.</p>
<p>I thoroughly enjoyed my time as a student at Indiana University and will cherish all my memories. </p>
<p>I would recommend that Freshman more or less take the same path I did:</p>
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<li>Join a fraternity</li>
<li>Get involved with RHS Student government / clubs as a freshman</li>
<li>Live in a Dorm, god help you if you get S.E.</li>
<li>Join student government via connections you made as a freshman</li>
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<p>or/and </p>
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<li><p>Leadership involvement in your Fraternity / Club during your sophomore / Jr year</p></li>
<li><p>Study Abroad for a Semester (Highly, Highly recommended <– best semester of my life)</p></li>
<li><p>Get an solid internship</p></li>
<li><p>Maintain leadership involvement your senior year, more relaxed</p></li>
<li><p>Get a job</p></li>
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<p>I will be starting in the Fall working at the corporate level. Go Hoosiers!</p>
<p>To OP:</p>
<p>You probably took the worst possible angle / fit for IU in general. You should have known this was a party school. Perhaps you should have went somewhere that matched your personality and interests, especially paying OOS tuition.</p>
<p>Yes, please reconsider IU if you don’t like to party, don’t want to live in the dorms freshman year, hate Greek life with a passion, don’t want to study your ass off (especially if your non DA) and anti-social. Your gonna hate it here.</p>
<p>To IU Mom:</p>
<p>You must be kidding yourself if you think your daughter doesn’t party hard on the weekends. I have seen daughters text their moms the exact things you say she is doing and laugh at the same time. </p>
<p>Yeah, they should be honest, but I can tell you this much (which doesn’t necessarily apply to you). The more you keep your daughter / son “locked up” before college, the wilder they are when they are finally free.</p>
<p>dear sam, I don’t doubt that there are many kids who lie about their partying. But with all due respect, I’m not stupid or deluded…I never said she NEVER parties, but I am sure that it isn’t a ‘get hammered-out all night’ kind of partying.</p>
<p>I agree that students who were kept on a short leash often go wild. She wasn’t kept on a short leash. We’re a very open family.</p>
<p>She has no curfew this summer (and didn’t last summer, either). Most nights she’s home pretty early. And she’s not drunk or stoned. She gets up early even when she doesn’t have to work, and jogs or does other stuff. Big party people don’t get up at 7 am and look fresh and alert. She could go out and party and sleep in many days if that is what she was into. She’s just not…I guess she’s a nerd.</p>
<p>And she’s a GDI, and likes it! IU really does offer different things to different people.</p>
<p>btw, she lived in one of those ‘unsocial’ dorms, and loved it. Often said how she would have hated living in NW because of the constant partying. So, for anyone reading this who doesn’t want the party life all the time, keep dorm choice in mind.</p>
<p>Did you join a fraternity as a sophomore then? Which one was it if you dont mind me asking</p>
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<p>IUMom - do freshmen get to pick their dorms? Which ones fall into the “boring, unsocial” category?</p>
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<p>damitssam - you’re kidding yourself if you think your anecdotal evidence proves that everyone’s daughter is partying hard on the weekends! LOL - just giving you a hard time. Some people party hard and some don’t, some do for a while and then grow out of it or fall deeper into it. IU definitely has a reputation as a party school, but with over 32,000 undergrads there are plenty of student with all kinds of preferences regarding “partying.” But for a whole lot of people, there is a big huge range between going out on weekends or enjoying a drink or two and getting falling-down-throwing-up drunk regularly. </p>
<p>Now whether or not IU is a place a student can have a blast at without wanting to get drunk 3 or 4 nights a week is the question. I’m guessing the answer is yes.</p>
<p>Damitssam,</p>
<p>Do you attribute both your internship and current job offers to your involvement with Frats? Even if so, your recommendation about Frat involvement and dorm selection may have some truth for Kelley students. S3 is a HS sophomore. He likes to crash parties not b/c he needs to. He has been seeping through my beer can from time to time. I am sure he would love to join some FRATS if he chooses to go to IU. If so, I hope that he understands the needs of respecting others, FRATS or not, and staying away from the predatory activities that got Yale/Cornell into trouble.</p>
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Are you serious? Drinking & Partying is going to be around everywhere. At least in Bloomington you only see cases like that every other year or so. Try imagining what it’d be like in Philly. </p>
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They found their way to succeed. You didn’t. The blame is sorely on you. Guess what? Those crazy-partiers in frats & sororities exist in <em>gasp</em> Ivy League schools too.</p>
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Do you honestly think that doesn’t happen else where? What about your work life? With that attitude you will get nowhere.</p>
<p>Life isn’t fair. The sooner you come to realize that, the better.</p>
<p>geekorathletic,</p>
<p>Agree with your statement:</p>
<p>"Life isn’t fair. The sooner you come to realize that, the better. "</p>
<p>Nonetheless, an unfair D/F grade could kill a pre-med’s dream. Disclosure of such instructors is very much appreciated.</p>