Is it harder for full asians or asian americans to get into ivy league schools? Or is it just as hard for mixed to get in as asians?
What do you mean by “full Asian” vs. “Asian-American”? If you’re talking about international admissions, it will always be harder for an international student to get in vs. a domestic student.
Also, I don’t agree with your implying that Asian-American is half-white, half-Asian. I ID as Asian-American despite being full ethnic Korean.
In answer to what I think you mean, I don’t think it makes a difference in admissions whether you’re monoracial Asian or biracial white-Asian.
Im full ethnic Korean as well! And by full asian I mean is it harder for domestic monoracial asians to get in over domestic biracial white-asians. I ask this because I have lots of friends that are biracial white-asians that have american last names. I was just wondering if these friends of mine would have an “easier” standard in admissions than if they were monoracial asians. I would think there would be a difference given that they would write mixed, while I would check asian.
Speaking as a half asian half white and researching myself, it’s not very clear. One thing you can try to look at is the CDS of schools to see if they have a “multi/biracial category (not including hispanic)”. If they have one, it’s possible they care about it more than a school that doesn’t.
I heard that admission from UPenn was really rough this year for Asians (international students). They accepted only 10 students from the pool. Also as international student your chances are always low on IVY leagues.
Im not international
So no reason to try and intimidate me with international student statistics, rather I am a princeton legacy, so could you tell me any of those statistics?
Ok, First let me know your stats like GPA, SAT, EC’s, etc.
I’m gonna bump this because I’m in the same boat as @Defuze
Not Asian at all but have friends who are 25% Asian and 75% white and have a middle eastern last name (not actually middle eastern, just sounds it), they acutally thought being 25% Chinese was an advantage? Should they just check white or check nothing?
if this is self identification and you have a non asian last name why cant you check white or nothing? Just curious not offering advice or even opinion
Here are the stats from Princenton admission rates for class 2018.
http://admission.princeton.edu/applyingforadmission/admission-statistics
I think if youre mixed race you can pick to just list one race, so that could be an advantage
@XCjunior2016. Agree with you.
If those friends mark off ‘white’ or ‘mixed’ on their application, they might have marginally better chances since the reader wouldn’t assume that they’re asian based on that info if the last name is ‘white.’ If the asian ethnicity comes up somewhere else and activities align with stereotypical asian activities, i would imagine that might be noted. Either way, it’s really hard to peg how much weight a factor like this would have but it’s something that would be considered in the holistic review process.
They do Judo but that is just something they do not because they are Chinese in part. In fact their instructor is white (as are most of the martial arts places where I live). They are really good too and have a few years before college, I assume they should continue if they like it
My friend goes to chinese school, plays tennis, plays violin… so would they have just as hard of a time getting into the ivy league as i do?
I assume yor friend is not Asian? I actually think learning Chinese for non asians is considered an advantage, kind of ironic.
No, he’s half asian, half white
I just wanted to say that I’m full Asian by blood but I very much consider myself Asian American. I don’t really like how OP excludes full Asians as being any less American than hapas.
I think the biggest problem is that our society isn’t fully educated on Asian races to the point of discrimination. It’s as if if you can’t be 100% Asian or 100% Hispanic and still be 100% American. I really feel it’s time for the our ethnic communities to speak up. An Asian American IS !00% American with their heritage as being 100% Asian. They are American citizens and not citizens from a foreign country. My son hates the term," hapa" and I don’t blame him. It reminds me of back in the 60s and 70s, when Native Americans/white were called “half breeds.” Back then biracial black/whites where called, “zebras” or “salt and pepper.” My son is white and his heritage is Chinese. (Dad is Chinese, Mom is white) His last name is Chinese and I will admit, his dad and I now understand the importance of the last name. We really should have let the hospital use my last name, so he’d have a more “white” sounding name. Why? Discrimination/assumptions. All the colleges he applied to thought he was an Asian American, so he was put into the Asian pool. Oh no! His SAT wasn’t perfect, he didn’t play the piano, he wasn’t in sports, he wasn’t like the other Asians. No, of course not! He’s white. He didn’t get into an ivy league, but he did get into a second tier college, which is really great! We got lucky. 
Guess what? They added an extra course to his first semester classes and charge us an extra $70…The class was an “English as a second language” course! We had to call them up and explain that he can’t speak Chinese and that English IS his native language. I really hate assumptions like that, especially from people, who are supposed to be more “well rounded” and “learned.” The even put all the Asians in the basement on one side of the hall way. The other side of the hall way was all white girls. The living arrangement actually had an advantage for my son, since his room mate is Korean and he can help him with his Korean class.