<p>Out of curiosity, what are the chances of being tap certified and getting into ucla, rather than not being tap cert. and getting into ucla. Also what if you were unable to finish tap does that help at all? thanks.</p>
<p>if i had to redo my cc journey, one of the mistakes that i made was not joining tap. At smc, TAP students get best enrollment dates, whihc is crucial for science majors.</p>
<p>As for advantages, they say it's priority admission, but for non impacted majors, pretty safe to assume 3.2+tap is pretty much a lock to get in.</p>
<p>For impacted majors like sociology, pol scie, TAP+3.4-3.5 is pretty much a lock.</p>
<p>W/ out tap, it's significantly harder if u're borderline gpa.</p>
<p>tap is like getting double priority, first California communty college students get priority and out of those students the tap students get priority, so if you are a good applicatn with tap you have a very high chance of getting in.</p>
<p>Yes, I know of many 3.2 GPAs with TAP that get into UCLA. An honest and legit application with TAP certification is usually a shoe in.</p>
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<p>oh dear, I wish we had tap here. Is a 3.68 psych major considered borderline for UCLA?</p>
<p>i don't think so...</p>
<p>I ask because everyone I talk to says 3.7+ gpa is good for ucla psych majors. :-(</p>
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Students in the Santa Monica College Scholars Program might not have a 100 percent guarantee that they will be admitted to UCLA or several other four-year universities but they couldnt get much closer. </p>
<p>For instance: In 2002, 92 of the 94 SMC Scholars students who applied to UCLA were admitted. In 2004, all 120 of the SMC applicants got into the prestigious Westwood campus. And several others head each year to sister school UC Irvine as well as such outstanding private universities as Occidental and Pomona. </p>
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<p>in the publication section of</p>
<p>"Yes, I know of many 3.2 GPAs with TAP that get into UCLA. An honest and legit application with TAP certification is usually a shoe in."</p>
<p>That conflicts with the information from actual counselor conferences where UCLA advisors say a 3.2 with TAP is NOT enough.</p>
<p>GPA is FAR MORE important than TAP.</p>
<p>Those statistics (about 92/94 getting in, etc.) are misleading because it doesn't say what GPAs those TAP people had. There's a good chance none had below a 3.4.</p>
<p>Gabe -</p>
<p>Is a 3.68 as a psych major for UCLA considered borderline?</p>
<p>If i were a pol scie, socio major i'd rather be tap cert w/ a 3.4 than a non tap w/ 3.6.</p>
<p>TAP makes a huge difference. it's proven at every cc that i know. </p>
<p>Last year my friend got into biz econ at ucla w/ a 3.5 missing calc but w/ tap. Not to mention how many 3.2ish that got into non compet majors.</p>
<p>Naturally a lot of those 92 students had gpa of 3.2-3.4 and still got in.</p>
<p>gabe, i don't care what counselors say, the admissions speak for themselves.</p>
<p>Not to mention UCLA expects TAP people to be .1-.2 lower b/c the classes that they take are a bit harder.</p>
<p>UCLA admitts w/ about 3.4 - 3.5 to noncompetetive majors, so TAP w/ 3.2ish is about the same.</p>
<p>highschool, you are making some of the typical mistakes we make on the board.
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Not to mention how many 3.2ish that got into non compet majors.
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Says who? Where are those statistics? Do we even have anecdotal evidence of 3.2 TAP students getting in?
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Again, according to what!?!?
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gabe, i don't care what counselors say, the admissions speak for themselves.
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What are you talking about!!?? What admissions!?? The 92/94? There is absolutely nothing to say that any of those students had 3.2s. You can't make that assumption; there is more evidence to say they had higher GPAs, given that TAP students generally have higher GPAs than non-TAP students.</p>
<p>oh dear, I'm not feeling good about my chances anymore now Highschoola. My cc never had UCLA TAP! :-(</p>
<p>Many, many cccs dont have TAP. I see TAP's main advantage as the ability to select an alternate major, not its ability to supposedly "raise a 3.4 to a 3.6." A claim like that is inherently dubious: the process isn't that simple.</p>
<p>The reason I think this issue is immensely important, is how it may influence students coming to a decision on whether to do TAP or not, for instance. It's wrong to give students the impression that they can do TAP and then get a lower GPA, but actually have a higher GPA standing because of TAP. That's horribly misleading info, and it would be very unfortunate if any students came to that conclusion.</p>
<p>gabe, reread my post. I know three people w/ 3.2-3.3 tap getting in. One was a 3.5 econ major w. missing calc.</p>
<p>Kevin was telling u that he also knows many people who got in ucla w/ 3.2 taps.</p>
<p>I just said that i know these people and then u ask me if i have anecdotal, LEARN TO READ!!!!!!</p>
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It's wrong to give students the impression that they can do TAP and then get a lower GPA, but actually have a higher GPA standing because of TAP. That's horribly misleading info, and it would be very unfortunate if any students came to that conclusion.
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<p>It's not wrong, b/c it's reality. Any counselor will tell u that many people get in w/ lower gpa that have tap. </p>
<p>Call any counselor and ask them.
i am done here. U obviously have no clue about tap and do not accept what people tell that have known people who have been in tap</p>
<p>I saw what you said: "Not to mention how many 3.2ish that got into non compet majors."</p>
<p>That evidence may be good for you, but it doesn't count for us unless we saw complete filles: even then it would still simply be anecdotal evidence.</p>
<p>What kevintech said earlier was egregiously off: "An honest and legit application with TAP certification is usually a shoe in." That's just blatantly false: at many schools you can have TAP certification with only a 3.0; what if a 3.0 TAP student applied for communications: no chance of getting in.</p>
<p>A 3.2 student in general has a better chance of getting into a non-competitive major than a non-competitive; the idea that a 3.2 TAP student somehow raises to a 3.4 or 3.5, etc. is just wrong. It's obviously much more complicated.</p>
<p>he was talking about people who apply for non impacted majors which the average for these majors is about 3.4 anyways. The reason they are accepted w. lower gpa is simple, their classes are honors and harder. </p>
<p>The point of TAP is to give priority admission, whihc means if u're qualified and ucla has a spot in their particular major, u'll be admitted.</p>
<p>Of course this doesn't apply as much for impacted majors.</p>
<p>Highschoolda, there is nothing in that post that is even the slighest bit coherent. It seems that you are taking this very personal; that is of course, not my intention, nor the intention of this forum. </p>
<p>Saying I'm wrong and saying something is reality isn't evidence. </p>
<p>Besides: </p>
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<p>That wasn't what I was saying. I was saying that TAP doesn't somehow raise someone's GPA 2 or more points. You would have to define "many" and then define what the consequences of that are. The counselor will undoubtedly tell you that TAP doesn't guarantee admission and that GPA is more important. That's not to say that 3.2 TAP students dont get in. There are 3.2 students WITHOUT TAP that get in too!</p>
<p>Can we agree on this:</p>
<p>TAP helps you.</p>
<p>TAP doesn't guarantee you admission.</p>
<p>GPA is more important than being TAP certified.</p>