<p>When you look at the classes that you have taken, the views that you learned in school, I can truly look at my Berkeley transcript and be amazed at how insightful, ingenious, unique, brilliant, etc… that the classes I took ranging from economics, to sociology, to poli sci, to PEIS, etc… were. </p>
<p>The classes offered at Berkeley are amazing. You cannot find courses with the same quality, progressiveness, excellence and breadth ANYWHERE ELSE.</p>
<p>Swathmore's and Amherst's courses are superior to Berkeley's in every way.</p>
<p>^ I don't want to start a LAC vs. research university discussion. </p>
<p>Within research universities, I dare say that Berkeley offers the best interdisciplinary education around.</p>
<p>Oh. </p>
<p>Well in that case, I agree.</p>
<p>and if you live in california, it's the cheapest and best education you can get.</p>
<p>By far the greatest class offered is called: "How to Toot Your Own Horn: An Analysis of Culture at Berkeley" </p>
<p>You won't find a better class offered on the face of the planet. Anywhere.</p>
<p>You won't have a better professor. Anywhere. </p>
<p>Berkeley is the greatest school. Anywhere.</p>
<p>No one's complainin about the education. We're all getting a good education. I want the ****ing OPPORTUNITIES coming out of Berkeley that people from Ivy League schools get.</p>
<p>^ I'd say a very high number of the Berkeley econ, haas grads I know are in investment banking, venture capital, management consulting in SF or NY.</p>
<p>What kind of opportunities do you mean? A Berkeley undergrad is the only democrat chosen to serve in the Bush administration, secretary of transportation Norman Mineta. Yeah, I suppose I haven't seen a Berkeley undergrad as president of the US yet. Is that what you mean? You want to be president of the US?</p>
<p>so are economics major people going to make more money than engineers? seems like that they do.</p>
<p>That is why a lot of engineers go get an MBA afterwards. In my opinion, an engineering undergraduate with an MBA is the best combination for future success in all levels of business, including finance and consulting.</p>
<p>i'm trying to double major in bioE and econ. so i would need to earn the degree for bioE and then apply to haas/another school for the mba?</p>
<p>but i still need to take the prereqs during my undergrad needed to apply for an mba?</p>
<p>but they also look at work experience.. but i doubt i could get some experience in the business field if i am in bioE during undergrad..</p>
<p>Are you getting the econ degree because you really enjoy economics, or because you want to get into an MBA program? If it's the former, power to you, but from what I've heard Eng and anything is extremely difficult. If it's the latter, I'd just take the prereqs for an MBA program in addition to your BioE major and see if you can't do internships in the summer that give you business experience in the BioE field, or consider BASE (Haas's summer program for non-business majors). Any students want to chime in?</p>
<p>BackToReality</p>
<p>yeah, I known like 2 or 3 people who double majored in engineering with econ/haas. They were seriously nutso. Anyone who does that AT BERKELEY automatically deserves a Nobel Prize.</p>
<p>you guys are good at tooting your own horn I havent seen an equivalent thread in HYPSMC forums</p>
<p>^ they probably hate their school. being babied in life only takes you so far in terms of spiritual fulfillment. (except for Cal Tech and MIT, where they go through just as much grade deflation as those at Berkeley.)</p>
<p>the only reason that people can be this enthusiastic about a school they attend is if they really loved their experience there. If there is anything that Berkeley students are guilty of, its that we never follow the crowd. We always do things our own way. =D</p>
<p>Yes im sure they all hate their school, it seems like some bekeley students are overcompensating</p>
<p>"I don't want to start a LAC vs. research university discussion.
Within research universities, I dare say that Berkeley offers the best interdisciplinary education around."</p>
<p>Or why not just eliminate the 30-40 schools that surpass Berkeley (including about 10-15 LACs) and then Berkeley will be the best education in the US by default.</p>
<p>sorry, but what does LAC stand for?</p>
<p>^ LAC stands for liberal arts colleges (i think)</p>
<p>Melting Snow - what universities surpass Berkeley? Do you mean in terms of wait time for meeting with your advisor? Sure you have to wait 30 minutes to meet with your advisor at a private school, vs. 1 hour at a public school. But really, is that something to brag about? "Hey I'm better than you because I waited less to meet with my advisor!" LOLZ!!!!!!</p>
<p>I would wait 1 week if it meant that I had a good professor that was at the top of his field, instead of a lower tier professor who couldn't make the cut at a top research university. So by what criteria are you speaking of? I tend to ask super difficult questions in economics, poli sci in class, so for me, a top professor is much more important to me than anything else. When I get an answer to my question, I want to KNOW that the insight provided is at the cutting edge of research in the ENTIRE WORLD.</p>
<p>In terms of faculty, Berkeley is the best in the world. The students who take advantage of this will get the best education in America. Professors facilitate the knowledge flow to trickle down and make you think in ways and directions that test not only the limits of your brain, but also the limits in the way societies think and shape themselves. I'm sorry but I consider this to be uber more important than anything else in education. Thats what a colllege is for, to learn from the best. Why go learn taekwon-do from a low ranked master, when you can learn from the top ranked master? because the low ranked master will give you an easier time? puh-leeze.</p>
<p>Funny you should say that. During my time here in college, I found out how much I depend on my peers to learn the material taught in class. Rather than learning from the professors or TA's, I have learned the most from the incredibly bright geniuses I live with in my dorm, meet in my classes, and sit with in the dining hall. I think the most important part of a university is the quality of the student body, not the pre-eminence of the professors.</p>