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Okay, my heart is sort of set 80/20 now, CMU/Berkeley
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<p>My head agrees with this outcome. It's about what happens if you don't get admitted to Haas.</p>
<p>My heart thinks you are crazy. Haas is amazing, its building on campus is really nice, contrary to what people think when they enter Berkeley through the grungy southside entrance, most of the campus is clean and gorgeous and fresh, and you'll be well set up for a lot by going to Haas. Live on Northside and you'll have a really nice living situation too. Also, I saw CM was on a list of ugliest campuses recently. If you don't get into Haas -- not likely if you plan well and work hard -- you'll get into Haas. If not, you can always do the BASE program</p>
<p>It's a matter of opinion (yes I've been to the bay area many times). Actually much of Pittsburgh is quite nice... hilly, rivers. Lots of houses and other buildings themselves are old, and not so great since it used to be a smelly industrial town. But Pgh has done well transforming itself, better than most rust belt cities. Top industries now are health care, technology, insurance. Most CMU students enjoy the city. Oakland section of Pgh is also home to UPitt, basically next door, so you have a very large student base in the area, along with all the coffeeshops, bookstores, restaurants etc that 40,000 students need and want.</p>
<p>CMU campus itself is compact and has some beautiful buildings, along with some eyesores. Most grads don't stay in Pgh...all the biggies from NYC and the west coast etc recruit on campus, so location isn't a big deal (same as Dartmouth, Cornell, WashU, Colgate, Vanderbilt...could go on and on listing great schools not in the most desirable recruiting areas, but it doesn't prevent top students from going there).</p>
<p>Wow, haven't been here for a couple of days.</p>
<p>AHHH now that I hear that Haas is better for some people here, I wonder if I'm going to regret it if I choose Tepper. I'm sure I won't slack off in college, so I do have the potential to get into Haas...But then again...ahh!!!</p>
<p>What do you want to do after graduating?</p>
<p>Well, I don't plan on IMMEDIATELY going into a grad school, maybe i will, but it'll be cool if i got some career going like at microsoft or something...and then i heard there's a thing where once you have a job, your company can cover your expenses at grad school, which will be a huge cost-remover.</p>
<p>Well, at a company like Microsoft, what do you want to do? Like Corporate Finance?</p>
<p>I just got into both Berkeley and Tepper, and I'm definitely choosing Berkeley. Yes, there is that what-if-I-don't-get-into-Haas factor, but I've heard if you take the right classes, have a good GPA, and do maybe like an internship, you'll get in. Haas is the better school by far. Also, like someone mentioned earlier, Pittsburgh isn't the greatest. And companies like Apple and Google are based in the Bay Area, so it's a great business community and you can possibly intern with one of those companies. </p>
<p>Having said that though, in the end, it doesn't matter which school is better, it's more about what school feels right for you.</p>
<p>It's not all about the city you live in. Looking at the Tepper curriculum, I have to say it is definitely one of the better business curricula alongside MIT and Wharton. Haas is kind of generic. However, business school is more about the education you get. It's about networking and getting the job you want, so it seems. sigh. I don't know Carnegie Mellon's recruiting, but I would assume with its quant background, that its a good school for recruiting especially amongst tech companies (they want those Compsci kids right?).</p>
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Well, I don't plan on IMMEDIATELY going into a grad school, maybe i will, but it'll be cool if i got some career going like at microsoft or something...and then i heard there's a thing where once you have a job, your company can cover your expenses at grad school, which will be a huge cost-remover.
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<p>When you say you don't plan on immediately going to grad school, I assume you mean you would think about getting an MBA (though not immediately). You wouldn't be admitted into a top MBA straight out of any undergrad (with very few exceptions, so few as to be worthless to mention). </p>
<p>Go to Haas. The recruiting is likely to be better. (But confirm this through research.)</p>
<p>Yeah, look at the career center reports. See what kind of companies recruit at each school of the companies you'd like to go too.</p>
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Looking at the Tepper curriculum, I have to say it is definitely one of the better business curricula alongside MIT and Wharton.
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<p>I would say, having just looked at both websites, that 1) on the face of things I'd agree that the Tepper curriculum seems more cohesively and professionally presented. 2) Does this mean it's a better curriculum? I think one should research this in-depth and move beyond Tepper's superior presentation to finding out the meat of the truth. 3) I am not sure that the biggest differences don't revolve around the 2-year vs. 4-year format; Haas requires for admissions classes such as computer science that Tepper includes as part of its curriculum and so either way one takes those classes. 4) Tepper is billed as very quantitative. I can't really see this from having read through its curriculum. The fact is I've noticed that the quantitative "stuff" taught at a business school is almost never going to make one a quant-jock. That level of quantness is taught in engineering programs or in programs like Haas' supercharged MFE program: Master's</a> in Financial Engineering Program - Haas School of Business - UC Berkeley. Having said that, CM may put out students on average that have a higher level of quantitative abilities; this wasn't apparent to me having read through the curriculum, but it may indeed be the case and may deserve investigation.</p>
<p>Alright, thanks you guys.
Hm...ya, I've also weighed in the factor that at CMU, business will be more technology-related-oriented.
And i agree w/the recrutiments about apple and google being probably better w/haas...
But then again, I also have to consider the $10,000/year difference between the 2 schools. I'm sill leaning towards CMU...Does anyone have reasons why CMU might have better benefits? (i think there's already enough pros about haas)</p>
<p>BedHead, I believe Tepper requires more math too (through Multi). I don't think Haas does that. </p>
<p>micheellee, have you thought about the size of each schools?</p>
<p>I don't know if you're still leaning towards CMU, I think I'd go there. I don't see a "technology orientation" at either school being so relevant unless you add in an engineering double. Sure, there are marketing concepts and Management of Technology foci, but these will be superficial, IMO.</p>
<p>Haas so far as I can tell requires calculus. econometrics, and statistics, not more. I don't know if there's a huge differentiation there.</p>
<p>The only other consideration I would throw in: where are you from? Go to the place that is "more different" from your hometown. Difference is a virtue.</p>
<p>sachmoney: yes, ive considered the sizes. i think private schools would mean better relationships w/professors, and it'll be much easier to know your fellow classmates and whom i will be dealing with for the next four years.</p>
<p>bedhead: well, im from the west, currently living in washington and was born in california (so im pretty familiar w/the bay area). im not afraid to venture out on my own...in fact, location's not a big factor for me. but ya, i really wanna experience the east too, so Ill probably just end up going to cmu.</p>
<p>im also on the waitlist for cornell, and im trying to see if i can get off of that so that i can take AEM at CALS. if i end up failing that, cmu's where ill probably go.</p>
<p>thanks everyone!</p>
<p>^^</p>
<p>Probably should've asked the location question to begin with. I'd go with CMU for the difference. But if you get into Cornell, I'd wager that's a richer experience than CMU probably. Just my bias.</p>
<p>And anyway, after 2 years, you can then try to transfer to Haas. ;)</p>