<p>SO there's pros and cons, and I can't decide!!!</p>
<p>Berkeley
Pros: #3 business in the nation, west coast (i live in the west), nice sunny weather, almost 100% guaranteed job hire after graduation
Cons: dirty campus, business is not guaranteed (have to apply in junior year), hella OOS tuition, big classes, uber uber liberal</p>
<p>CMU
Pros: Clean(er), private school w/smaller classes, cheaper, w/students who are probably around my smartness...
Cons: #8-ish for business in the nation, east coast, maybe not as successful recruiting school as berkeley</p>
<p>Classes might be a little big your first 2 years, but once you get into Haas classes become considerably smaller. I think Haas only has about 300 students for every year.</p>
<p>I'm confused, are you turned on towards CMU because the students would be smarter or are you turned off by Berkeley because the students are smarter? I've always kinda looked at them on the same level.</p>
<p>Well of course all of them are smart!!!
But if I look at STATS only of who's admitted and such, my SAT/GPA would be higher than the average of CMU, whereas at Berkeley, my SAT/GPA is pretty much smack in the middle of the average.</p>
<p>Oh I'm not accusing you of insinuating anything. I just wanted to know what you were trying to say with "w/students who are probably around my smartness...". As in: do you or don't you want to be around smart kids, because I dont' know how smart you are or what your perception of each school is.</p>
<p>Oh btw, I'm not a graduate or a business student. I'm a HS Sr like you. Just to let you know</p>
<p>lool...obviously Haas is better in reputation and stuff...but im a bit biased since my friends dad is the guy who had the CMU business school named after him</p>
<p>Is the weather really nice and sunny at Berkeley?</p>
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<p>Whoa, cool. So does this mean you're pretty much guaranteed an admission lol</p>
<p>if i wanted to go there =)</p>
<p>I'd go with berkley. Weather, even though people might say otherwise, is an important thing to factor it. I know I'm happiest when there is sun and a decent temperature....I probably should've applied to more west coast schools, but oh well, here is always grad school.</p>
<p>Haha, sorry glueeater if my comment sounded somewhat cranky; i didnt mean to sound like that!</p>
<p>But no, i dont want to surround myself w/all super smart kids, considering that that's way more stress and pressure, and it would be nice if i were in a room where i can be a little be "smarter" than others (haha! what a mean comment).</p>
<p>hmmmmmmm......well that's the thing. grad school's to consider, but i dont know if i wanna go RIGHT after i graduate undergrad. thus, what would put me in a better position --as in, which undergrad program will recruit more?</p>
<p>eek, im not much of a weather person, i dont really care if it's rain or shine! (considering that i live in washington, where it's super wet all the time)</p>
<p>CMU for sure. I thought about this for a while a couple of years ago. Think about it. Common scenario: How about if you don't get into Haas? What will you do? Say goodbye to majoring in business.</p>
<p>It all up to whether you're really interested in pursuing a degree in business, and how soon you want to do it (4 years or 2)</p>
<p>p.s. Tepper undergrads make more that UCB Haas undergrads after graduation (median is $60,000 vs. $57,000 according to businessweek.com)</p>
<p>yousonofatree: yes, i also received my financial aid package today, and it's WAYY cheaper than what berkeley's offering me (nothing!). haha hmm...okay...im now 60/40, cmu/berkeley.</p>
<p>I will go with Berkeley Haas since it is located adjacent to San Francisco. This not opens the door to opportunities but there are also more to do in San Francisco!
However, admission to Hass is highly selective! The admission rate is 7%.</p>
<p>Good luck! I will be praying that you get admitted to both of them~ ^^</p>
<p>That 7% is among transfers. I think within the school it's over 50%, still pretty low though.</p>
<p>California weather is mild, but don't think that Berkeley is sun and palm trees year-round.</p>
<p>I think the consensus would be Haas would be a better school, and the unfortunate reality is that at CMU there isn't such a surrounding community/economy to graduate into as there is in the Bay Area. My only question is whether you would be seriously unhappy if you didn't make it into Haas. Would you look back and say you should have gone to Tepper? Because if so (and if Tepper admits people up-front rather than after two years as Haas does), you really might be better off at CMU.</p>
<p>Oh, and the Haas part of campus is not dirty. And the Haas swath of campus is not uber uber liberal. In fact that label applies more to the town than to the student body to a large extent.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>Tepper. </p>
<p>CMU is very quant oriented compared to the rest of the world. Something of a mini MIT if you ask me. This is what the business world is unarguably pushing for, especially the world of finance (not just ibanking).</p>
<p>Whatever your heart wants.</p>
<p>coolant: Actually, i'm admitted to both of them, so I'm just in this dilemma right now!!!!</p>
<p>Bedhead: oh, thanks! haha, yea i was viewing the school as a whole so I guess I didn't factor in HAAS by itself.</p>
<p>Godsend: Thanks for your opinion...I mean, I love math, so maybe I SHOULD choose Tepper!</p>
<p>Okay, my heart is sort of set 80/20 now, CMU/Berkeley</p>
<p>Admission into Haas isn't final. Just because you got into Berkeley does not mean you will get into Haas. You apply again in your sophmore year, Haas is a 2 year business school.</p>
<p>Trust me, go for Haas! I was at Pittsburgh for a semester, and the city itself wasn't that appealing to me. Pittsburgh can be described as “urban decay”. The city looked tired. I visited CMU once and being into their business school. On a scale of 0 to 100, I would give them a score of 85.
Hass is on the top of a hill overlooking UC Berkeley and San Francisco. On a clear day, one can sit on the steps and enjoy the dazzling views of San Francisco.
The state of the art architecture is a representative of contemporary design featuring cutting edge facilities.
So definitely go for Hass! UC Berkeley rules!</p>