<p>But even those points on prepreview have a subjective edge to them. They are biased by other factors. If a school accepts only students with 93+ SSATs then has SAT average of 2008 are they really better than a school that accepts 67 ssats and has SAT of 1800. Sounds to me like they have educated their students equally but one is more selective than the other… It does not mean that the student who got 93 SSAT at school 2 will have lower SAT upon graduation then if they had gone to school 1…</p>
<p>also if you look at middlesex, 85+ SSATs but then has an SAT average of 2070 but they are not in your HADES. </p>
<p>As much as we strive to quantify things, there will always be factors to bias…</p>
<p>@principalviola : with the ‘objective’ data you were talking about, I don’t think milton and SPS has a clear lead on Deerfield. On prepreview, Deerfield is ranked higher than Exeter, Andover with the Ivy stan+MIT Matriculation. They also have the most students receiving aid ,</p>
<p>True… SPS>DF=Milton>Rest? Purely speaking in objective terms, however. at hammer: Well they should be more selective! It means a more intelligent student body embodies the community.</p>
<p>That is true, but do not discount the fact that a 2100 is greater than an 1800. Your argument falls apart when you say that selectivity is the key: The school with a higher SAT score has higher demand because of better education (or better pedigree) which translates to higher selectivity.</p>
<p>Funny I thought you just made my case for me…more selectivity means higher SAT, not necessarily better school…<br>
2100 is only better if you are the one getting it…
A+ student going in = A+ student coming out, regardless of the selectivity of the school…
If you go to Andover and get 2000 on your SAT or you go to NMH and get 2000 on your SAT do you think the college cares about Andover more than NMH…??</p>
<p>I would say Deerfield and SPS are about equal, and people tended to have very different opinions about which one’s better; @hammer: I think regardless of selectivity, there are a better quality of education. you can’t compare Andover with NMH based on their quality of education. prestige aren’t given for nothing.</p>
<p>If you add pedigree (age operating plus legacy of alumni) in there HEADS GM (not choate as much) have no competition. You, at the core, are right. There is little sway between these schools, they are all top notch.</p>
<p>@ principalviola–Why would Milton, SPS, Exeter, and Andover have an objective lead over Deerfield. I can understand, statistically, which Exeter and Andover might be ranked higher, but I think Deerfield is equal to SPS, and Milton, well…I know you like Milton, but I don’t agree…</p>
<p>Look at PrepReview. I revised my post, if you do not include pedigree Milton=DF and SPS is ahead… Andover may be too, I believe. SAT scores, SSAT scores, college placement, etc. I like Milton, but statistics back me up.</p>
<p>Believe me, at this level they are all great. The difference is nominal…</p>
<p>Ivy League + MIT/Stanford % placement
National HYPSM placement rank
Student teacher ratio
AP courses offered
Tuition
Percent on FA
Endowment
% Faculty with Advanced degree
Oxbridge placement (I do not believe this is weighted as heavily as HYPSM)
Average FA grant</p>
<p>How can you see the Ivy League + MIT/Stanford % placement? Did you get the premium? Also, notice that SAT scores are missing. And also, while the number of AP courses is objective, whether AP courses are necessary is a very subjective entity. Also, if your “ranking” includes tuition, how does that define a school? Also, would a school’s rank be helped if it had a higher percentage of students on FA? In my opinion, it shouldn’t.</p>