<p>Sorry, you;re right… I over stated, or is that under. Irrelevant, nonetheless.</p>
<p>CSU eligibility index is calculated as described here:
[CSUMentor</a> - Plan for College - High School Students - Eligibility Index](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>GPA Calculator | CSU)</p>
<p>Note that 2900 in-state or 3502 out-of-state for the SAT-based index was the minimum for CSU eligibility, which means that the majors listed as having an eligibility index minimum of 2900 in-state or 3502 out-of-state (e.g. in the San Jose State freshman impaction index) were effectively not impacted – an applicant just needed minimum CSU eligibility to be admitted to those majors.</p>
<p>Note also the major arbitrage opportunities between similar majors. An applicant with stats too low to be admitted to SJSU in Computer Science may be able to be admitted to the similar Software Engineering major. Also, it seems odd that Chemistry is the most impacted major, while Chemical Engineering is not impacted at all, despite the latter’s much better job and career prospects – given the large selection of career-oriented majors at SJSU, it seems odd that a presumably career-oriented group of applicants and students would favor Chemistry over Chemical Engineering.</p>
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<p>Agree that it would be helpful for applicants to get some idea of where they stand, though there is the caution that schools and majors may change in popularity and admissions competitiveness (i.e. if they are only slightly above last year’s cutoff eligibility index for the school and major, they should not be overconfident about gaining admission).</p>
<p>But also, some schools mix in other criteria like essays and recommendations, so purely numbers-based listings like at SJSU might not be accurate. [UC</a> StatFinder](<a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu%5DUC”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu) can give some idea of how selective various UCs are.</p>
<p>then why does SJSU list all their majors as impacted on the CSU Impaction matrix? It looks like a majority of their majors require a 3200 EI which equates to 2.5 GPA and and 800 on the SAT. That doesn’t sound impacted to me. Is the matrix misleading?</p>
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<p>The unimpacted ones (needing CSU EI of 2900, the minimum for in-state CSU eligibility) happen to be ones not listed in the CSU Impaction Matrix.</p>
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<p>Looks like the definition of impacted is that it requires more than the minimum CSU eligibility (EI of 2900 for in-state).</p>
<p>2.5 GPA and 800 on SAT produces a CSU EI of 2800, not enough for even in-state minimum CSU eligibility.</p>
<p>giants, it is common knowledge that students within the local CSU service area have a far greater chance of admission for the local campus than any other. that means some high school students are “lucky” if they live close to the best CSU campuses at SLO, pomona, san diego or long beach.</p>
<p>panda, you need to get off the bong. your comments are so ignorant that it will take weeks for you do recover.</p>
<p>systemwide, this was a record year for applications. my sources suggest every CSU campus had record application submissions, meaning that EVERY campus had better students. chancellor reed surely is smiling about that while he simultaneously cries about the brutal budget picture.</p>
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<p>Yes, I think pretty much EI of 2900 doesn’t guarantee you admittance to the impacted CSUs unless you’re in the local area. My friend got SAT 1120 didn’t get into Long Beach but she got into UC Riverside. UCSD raised their TAG to 3.5 GPA but I don’t think it necessarily guarantees admission into the major you want. The schools will base it on the stats of the other applicants. If majority has 3.8 GPA then you’ll probably be on the waiting list at best.</p>
<p>Take a look at this link:
[CSUF</a> Admissions and Records - Admissions Updates](<a href=“http://www.fullerton.edu/admissions/ProspectiveStudent/updates.asp]CSUF”>Redirect)</p>
<p>It seems CSUF requires a 3200 EI even for local students. </p>
<p>As for the CSU ave SATs, maybe majority of CSU admitted freshmen are local students. Since local area students have lower requirements then that drives down the ave SAT score.</p>
<p>according to CSUF, all applicants regardless of local admissions area, are subject to stricter standards. Though ALL majors continue to be impacted at Fullerton, their average SAT remains under 1,000. It makes no sense to me. The impacted designation seems to mean different standards to different campuses and may even be misused by some. I think it’s a poor indicator of quality demand.</p>
<p>the CSU system prefers not to advertise the double standard at work within these local service areas. as a result, many admissions offices engage in a form of code talk double speak that as you suggest sometimes makes little to no sense. it is the choice of the local campus, upon consultation with the chancellor’s office in long beach of course, to alter the local/statewide mix, and that’s what the elite campuses have been able to do.</p>
<p>The figures below are for admitted students and was given by our counsellor last week. It said the data was received at the Fall 2010 Fall CSU Counselor Conference and 2010 WACAC Share and Learn Conference.</p>
<p>Fall 2010 CSU System Campus and Eligibility Index Info</p>
<p>Pls. note that the CSU system doesn’t include the SAT/ACT Writing.</p>
<pre><code> Ave. EI; Ave GPA; Ave. SAT; Ave ACT
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<p>San Diego: 4172; 3.78; 1148; 26
Fullerton: 3812; 3.48; 1108; 24
Pomona: 3600; 3.57; 1100; 24; Architecture very competitive with ave GPA 3.8
Chico: 3502; 3.4; 1068; 24
Long Beach: 3400; 3.6; 1100; 24
Fresno: 3300; 3.28; 945; 20
Sonoma: 3200 3.25 1100 22
San Jose: 3200 <------not reported--------->
Northridge: 3200 <-------not reported--------->
SF State: 3100 <-------not reported--------></p>
<p>Cal Poly SLO doesn’t use EI. Each major had a different cutoff depending on number of applicants and students ranked in each major. Ave GPA of admiited students: 3.94; av SAT 1292; ave ACT 29</p>
<p>I didn’t include other CSUs because the EI listed was 2900 and I was too lazy to type anymore.</p>
<p>Which of these has the best civil engineering program: CSU Long Beach, San Jose, Sacramento, or Fullerton? According to US News, San Jose has the best engineering school all around–as of 2010.</p>
<p>among that group san jose has a slight edge. so you were unable to get admit letters to either of the two cal poly programs that are ranked much higher?</p>
<p>sac state good for business</p>
<p>Cal Poly SLO
SJSU</p>
<p>It mainly depends on your major. Some schools are better than others in specific programs. For instance, Cal Poly SLO has an excellent and competitive engineering program.</p>
<p>according to the 2012 US News ranking Peer Assessment Score, here are the highest.</p>
<p>Cal Poly SLO 4.0
Cal Poly Pomona 3.5
Fullerton 3.3
SFSU 3.3
Long Beach 3.3
SJSU 3.1
Chico 3.1
CSUN 3.1
The Rest > 3.0</p>
<p>@ maunesh
Cal Poly SLO has easily the best engineering program of the Cal states, its honestly your best option for a cal state.</p>
<p>For engineering, Cal Poly Pomona is probably second best (again, only for engineering),
but SLO is really above all the rest.</p>
<p>A hidden gem and secret CSU–Cal Maritime Academy–rigorous hands on engineering (around 180 semester units to graduate!) and less than a 1000 students total–thus small LAC college experience!</p>
<p>I love Cal Maritime – my friend’s son will go there. Employment rates are very high. You must have a passion for the sea and be willing to consider working in the international trade and logistics field. Students are cadets and wear uniforms and the focus is to prepare you for a career in the merchant marines. I am in international business myself so I totally get the program and support it. Be ready to spend months at sea if you choose this program. Highly specialized, it is perfect for kids interested in the global shipping trade. Engineers are desperately needed in this field.</p>
<p>I totally agree with CollegeStan that Cal Maritime is a hidden gem!!</p>
<p>@ jturn711xyz and maunesh – Please take note that Cal Poly SLO is not just the top CSU for engineering. It also beats out most schools period.</p>
<p>Cal Poly engineers enjoy the highest starting salary rates for any California public institution. This includes any UC (yes, even UC Berkeley) or Cal State. Mid career salaries are also very competitive. Cal Poly puts a lot of nationally ranked private schools to shame as well.</p>
<p>Great school – incredible engineering program. Not just one of the best in the CSU system, but one of the best engineering schools in the entire country.</p>
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<p>This claim is probably based on entire school comparisons; Cal Poly has fewer of the low paid humanities and biology graduates than Berkeley or most other schools.</p>
<p>If you want to compare major by major, you can look at each school’s career survey:</p>
<p>[Graduate</a> Status Report - Career Services - Cal Poly](<a href=“http://www.careerservices.calpoly.edu/content/student/gsr_report]Graduate”>http://www.careerservices.calpoly.edu/content/student/gsr_report)
<a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm</a></p>
<p>(Note: other UCs and CSUs don’t seem to be very forthcoming about their graduates’ destinations. Makes you wonder…)</p>
<p>good point about cal maritime, it truly is a best kept secret. jturn, engineering is NOT the most distinguished program at either cal poly campus. at SLO it is probably architecture which enjoys rave reviews and rankings nationally. at pomona it is hospitality management, which is ranked second in the nation only behind ivy league school cornell.</p>