<p>Can anyone rank the CSU schools for a computer science major? Which schools have the best options for internships?</p>
<p>Probably SLO and San Jose for CS.</p>
<p>CSULB… Long Beach has the most programs and best reputation…
CSUSD is a party school with a bunch of drunks (everyone knows that)
Pomona lets in whoever…they have a pretty bad rep unless you go there and think its good.
CSUF is good for ONLY business
Dominguez is for education majors.</p>
<p>Being the best CSU is like winning the NIT.</p>
<p>Oh come on dude, give the NIT a little more credit.
Even basketball powerhouses like UNC and UCLA end up there some years.</p>
<p>Remember CSUs MUST take their local students first. They are different from UC.</p>
<p>Compaq, I don’t believe that is accurate. Where are you getting that information?</p>
<p>[CSUMentor</a> - Plan for College - High School Students - Freshman Admission Requirements Overview](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU)</p>
<p>[CSUF</a> Admissions and Records - Admissions Requirements](<a href=“http://www.fullerton.edu/admissions/ProspectiveStudent/requirements.asp]CSUF”>Redirect)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/documents/CSULocalAdmission-ServiceAreas.pdf[/url]”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/documents/CSULocalAdmission-ServiceAreas.pdf</a> says that CSUs have local admission areas where students local to the CSU has some preference in admissions.</p>
<p>[Publications</a> and Resources | Student Academic Support | CSU](<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/]Publications”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/) has other CSU information. The impacted programs matrix here <a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/documents/ImpactedProgramsMatrix.pdf[/url]”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/documents/ImpactedProgramsMatrix.pdf</a> says that Fullerton, San Diego, San Jose, and San Luis Obispo are the most popular relative to their capacity (most or all majors at those campuses are impacted, while most majors at most campuses are not impacted and allow students in with minimum CSU admission criteria). However, some majors are more impacted than others; nursing (basic) is impacted at all campuses that offer it.</p>
<p>Isn’t that similar to the ELC program that UC has? I don’t see anything in those links that shows that Cal States must take local students before they even look at students from other parts of the state. I’m not sure if that’s what you were proposing, though.</p>
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<p>UC’s ELC compares the applicant’s GPA to the historic top GPA at the applicant’s high school; if higher, then the applicant will be admitted to some UC (no particular one is guaranteed, though, so if the applicant applies only to Berkeley and does not get into Berkeley, s/he may see an acceptance package from Merced). ELC does not give priority in admissions to a nearby UC the way that some CSUs give extra points or priority to applicants from their local areas.</p>
<p>I see. Good to know. Thanks for the explanation, UCB.</p>
<p>One of the best measures for the best CSU is demand from incoming freshmen. The best standard for that would be average SAT scores. By that measure:</p>
<p>Cal Poly SLO
Cal Poly Pomona
Maritime
Humboldt State
SDSU
Chico
Long Beach
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San Jose
Fullerton</p>
<p>[California</a> State University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“California State University - Wikipedia”>California State University - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>As far as academic reputation, I believe the only one that measures that is the US News ranking, but it’s not listed on the free online version. Last time I read the book the scores were something like the following:</p>
<p>Cal Poly SLO 3.8
Cal Poly Pomona 3.4
SDSU 3.4
Long Beach 3.2
SJSU 3.2</p>
<p>The rest where 3s and below</p>
<p>Average GPA for the Cal Poly SLO entering class of 2011 was 4.03 for engineering and 3.9 overall. We were told this at the orientation and registration event last month.</p>
<p>I think the Impacted Programs Matrix shared by ‘ucbalumnus’ is a better indicator of which CSU is in demand among freshman applicants rather than the wiki link shared by ‘mrsleonore’. I think you should look at the CSU minimum eligibility index required for local freshmen and out of local area freshmen to determine which is the more selective school. I found this link,
[CaliforniaColleges.edu</a> - California State University (CSU) Acceptance Enrollment Rates](<a href=“http://californiacolleges.edu/admissions/acceptance-enrollment-rate-csu.asp]CaliforniaColleges.edu”>http://californiacolleges.edu/admissions/acceptance-enrollment-rate-csu.asp)</p>
<p>Based on the data, the CSUs with the most applicants last year were Long Beach, San Diego State, SLO and Fullerton. These same CSUs also had the lowest acceptance rate.</p>
<p>@osakadad,</p>
<p>the academic reputation I was referring to is different from gpas. It’s a peer assessment from other institutions conducted by the US News college rankings.</p>
<p>[Best</a> Colleges Reputation Survey Launches - Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings (usnews.com)](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2011/04/14/best-colleges-reputation-survey-launches]Best”>http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2011/04/14/best-colleges-reputation-survey-launches)</p>
<p>I would only believe gpa stats put out by the research departments of each institution. </p>
<p>[CSU</a> | AS | Educational Analytic and Research Information](<a href=“http://www.asd.calstate.edu/ir/campus-ir-links.shtml]CSU”>http://www.asd.calstate.edu/ir/campus-ir-links.shtml)</p>
<p>@krlilies,</p>
<p>Major impaction and acceptance rates are a poor gauge of demand. Sure, some campuses get a lot of applicants, but they are not all necessarily top notch. If it were so, CSULBs 20 percent acceptance rate would put it in the company of Cornell. I would find that hard to believe when the average SAT score at LB and Fullerton are barely at or under 1,000 and close to 1500 at the latter. I would still consider average SAT scores as the best gauge of demand since it measures the quality of incoming students by a standard means. Even GPAs are measured differently from one high school to the next. Everyone knows that quality trumps quantity;)</p>
<p>BTW, the wiki link I posted has 100% sourced information from each campus’ research departments as linked above.</p>
<p>Wow! CSULB has only a 20% acceptance rate? Gee… My son’s girlfriend really wants to go there because of the excellent music department. I hope that she can get in. Bummer that is so hard to get into. I had no idea.</p>
<p>As said above, it might mean that CSU Long Beach has a lot of low stats applicants, so a high stats applicant may get in easily. However, it is not always obvious that this is the case, especially if admissions selectivity varies by major.</p>
<p>San Jose State makes it obvious how selective each major was in the most recent admissions cycle:
[SJSU</a> Admission<a href=“It%20appears%20that%20the%20stereotypical%20pre-med%20majors%20–%20biology,%20chemistry,%20communicative%20disorders%20and%20diseases,%20health%20science,%20nutritional%20science%20–%20are%20well%20represented%20among%20the%20most%20impacted%20majors.”>/url</a></p>
<p>CSU Long Beach does not appear to make as much information of this sort available:
[url=<a href=“http://www.csulb.edu/depts/enrollment/admissions/freshmen.html]Freshman”>First-Time, First-Year Student Admission Eligibility | California State University Long Beach]Freshman</a> Admissions](<a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/narr/admission/rec-1208.html]SJSU”>http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/narr/admission/rec-1208.html)
However, the impacted majors matrix here:
<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/documents/impactedprogramsmatrix.pdf[/url]”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/documents/impactedprogramsmatrix.pdf</a>
indicates that music is not an impacted major at CSU Long Beach, at least not more impacted than the campus as a whole.</p>
<p>Other impacted campuses give varying amounts of information:
[CSU</a> Campus Impaction Information | Student Academic Support | CSU](<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impaction-campus-info.shtml]CSU”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impaction-campus-info.shtml)</p>
<p>@osakadad,</p>
<p>Like I mentioned, 20% percent may sound impressive, but not so much when one considers that one only needs a 1030 on the SAT which is slightly above the national average. Not too impressive when the national average student chooses to go to a JC anyways. You’re son’s girlfriend should not have too much to worry about if she’s a slightly above average HS student. </p>
<p>@UCBalumnus,</p>
<p>Those are some good stats put out by SJSU. I only wish the other CSUs put out the same stats. Even for the toughest major at SJSU (chemistry), one only needs a 3.5 GPA an a 950 on the SAT based on the CSU eligibility index. Still not too difficult to achieve. SJSU lists most of the majors as impacted, but with a 2.0 GPA, an SAT score in not even necessary according to a 2900 CSU eligibility index, so the Impaction label in not even necessary (what figures?). The only other eligibility index that was published that I was aware of was the Cal Poly Pomona Architecture (that’s where I am attending) score of 4100 which equates to about a 3.8 and an 1200 on the SAT. I would say that’s about as close to the average of getting into UCSC or UCI. I am sure SLOs averages are way higher. In these times of uncertainty, and with people considering their bang for their buck, it would be good to see the stats for all CSUs and UCs for certain majors. I would suggest again that people search the Uni’s statistics or particular departmental websites for accurate info. Particular CSU majors are just as tough as getting into some UCs or even Ivy Leagues.</p>
<p>[CAL</a> POLY POMONA | DEPT. OF ARCHITECTURE](<a href=“http://www.csupomona.edu/~arc/barch.html#admissions]CAL”>http://www.csupomona.edu/~arc/barch.html#admissions)</p>
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Where’d you find that? I crunched in its common data set numbers and it has an admit rate of ~33%.</p>
<p><a href=“http://daf.csulb.edu/offices/univ_svcs/institutionalresearch/cds.html[/url]”>http://daf.csulb.edu/offices/univ_svcs/institutionalresearch/cds.html</a></p>